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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #24 - 07/05/15 at 20:36:21
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 07/05/15 at 19:46:37:
John Watson has written books on the French and the Modern Benoni. While there is little similarity in terms of pawn structure, there's something about how Black fights for counterplay in both that appeals to me.


Psakhis too!
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #23 - 07/05/15 at 19:46:37
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John Watson has written books on the French and the Modern Benoni. While there is little similarity in terms of pawn structure, there's something about how Black fights for counterplay in both that appeals to me.
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #22 - 07/05/15 at 15:44:32
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I didn't see the Pirc and King's Indian listed which my first coach used to play.  As a side note, there's a book coming out on this. 
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #21 - 07/04/15 at 16:39:14
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This is true, but I think the combo KID + Kalashnikov/Sveshnikov is not so commonly seen in club tournament level

RoleyPoley wrote on 07/03/15 at 21:37:01:


Radjabov has also played the Kalashnikov, which if i remember correctly Tony has said in his excellent book, has some similarities to the Kings India.

  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #20 - 07/04/15 at 03:20:12
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RdC wrote on 06/29/15 at 07:14:55:
You can play "the Sniper" ( Black plays g6, Bg7 and c5) to reach original positions, often by playing Bxc3. Alternatively it gives a chance to transpose into lines of the many mainstream openings where Black plays these moves.

The set up with Nf6, g6, Bg7, O-O is common to a number of openings as is d6, g6, Bg7. So you can mix and match between the Benoni, Kings Indian, Grunfeld, Leningrad Dutch, Pirc or Modern.


This is true, but often if you play a non-forcing move order, it is White who gets to choose which you get!
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #19 - 07/03/15 at 21:37:01
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cx wrote on 07/03/15 at 21:07:18:
Opening combos I have often seen were:

  • KID + French, playing for closed positions (Radjabov played this combo once, and also Uhlmann I believe)
  • KID + Najdorf, trying to get sharp attacking positions
  • KID + Dragon, saw this combo often on club level, I think dragon is relatively easy to build up, Kasparov recommended it because you learn a lot of things of the sicilian, KID is just a universal build up against all the closed openings
  • Armenian school recommended Tarrasch Defence + Classical Sicilian I heard, I think because you get open positions there
  • French + Dutch Stonewall, players who like to play around the e6 pawn with a more positional touch
  • French + Nimzo/7F3D74617276717D76611303-complex, players who like to play around the e6 pawn with a bit more tactical style
  • e6-sicilian + Nimzo/7F3D74617276717D76611303-complex, players who like to play around the e6 pawn with a bit more tactical style too, but who like more open positions
  • e5 and QGD, in order to play the classical openings to get a good foundation
  • Accelerated Dragon and Benko-Gambit, saw this on club level often, you often get positional positions where your own king is not in danger
  • Slav/Caro kann: Just to build up with c6-d5 against everything, the GM dreev plays this, but the openings differ a lot imho., you can have advance or classical in caro-kann, you can have exchange or other slav variations, although you play c6-d5 against everything, play can differ greatly


Also on club level I have often seen the KID/Dragon-combo paired with the english 1.c4


Radjabov has also played the Kalashnikov, which if i remember correctly Tony has said in his excellent book, has some similarities to the Kings India.
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #18 - 07/03/15 at 21:07:18
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Opening combos I have often seen were:

  • KID + French, playing for closed positions (Radjabov played this combo once, and also Uhlmann I believe)
  • KID + Najdorf, trying to get sharp attacking positions
  • KID + Dragon, saw this combo often on club level, I think dragon is relatively easy to build up, Kasparov recommended it because you learn a lot of things of the sicilian, KID is just a universal build up against all the closed openings
  • Armenian school recommended Tarrasch Defence + Classical Sicilian I heard, I think because you get open positions there
  • French + Dutch Stonewall, players who like to play around the e6 pawn with a more positional touch
  • French + Nimzo/QID-complex, players who like to play around the e6 pawn with a bit more tactical style
  • e6-sicilian + Nimzo/QID-complex, players who like to play around the e6 pawn with a bit more tactical style too, but who like more open positions
  • e5 and QGD, in order to play the classical openings to get a good foundation
  • Accelerated Dragon and Benko-Gambit, saw this on club level often, you often get positional positions where your own king is not in danger
  • Slav/Caro kann: Just to build up with c6-d5 against everything, the GM dreev plays this, but the openings differ a lot imho., you can have advance or classical in caro-kann, you can have exchange or other slav variations, although you play c6-d5 against everything, play can differ greatly


Also on club level I have often seen the KID/Dragon-combo paired with the english 1.c4
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #17 - 07/02/15 at 15:20:18
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chk wrote on 07/02/15 at 14:12:45:

The Sämisch, or other KID setups where ...c5 makes sense (instead of ...e5) could produce similarities to the Sicilian Dragons (e.g.: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 c5 7. Nge2 Nc6 8. Qd2 cxd4 9. Nxd4)


There is also of course 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 0-0 6. Be2 c5 7. 0-0 cd 8. Nxd4 Nc6.
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #16 - 07/02/15 at 14:12:45
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tony37 wrote on 06/30/15 at 20:52:18:
chk wrote on 06/30/15 at 16:04:06:
On one hand you could say that the Acc. Dragon has a completely different character, but this particular line seems to me more KID than Acc. Dragon in spirit..

maybe because it isn't an Acc. Dragon...


Yep, I'm a complete idiot.

The Sämisch, or other KID setups where ...c5 makes sense (instead of ...e5) could produce similarities to the Sicilian Dragons (e.g.: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 c5 7. Nge2 Nc6 8. Qd2 cxd4 9. Nxd4)

Sorry again, my chess brain seems to be asleep these days..
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #15 - 07/01/15 at 05:40:29
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Accelerated Dragon and Benko Gambit!?
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #14 - 06/30/15 at 23:08:14
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Dzindzi used to recommend the Accelerated Dragon and KID as complementary openings. I don't know if he still does though.
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #13 - 06/30/15 at 20:52:18
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chk wrote on 06/30/15 at 16:04:06:
On one hand you could say that the Acc. Dragon has a completely different character, but this particular line seems to me more KID than Acc. Dragon in spirit..

maybe because it isn't an Acc. Dragon...
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #12 - 06/30/15 at 16:04:06
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kylemeister wrote on 06/29/15 at 15:08:45:
chk wrote on 06/29/15 at 14:24:18:
Some of the lines may also transpose (like e.g. in the Gligoric lines of the KID).


I don't understand; surely it would be some trick for 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 0-0 6. Be2 e5 7. Be3 to transpose to a Dragon.  Clearly it's possible for a KID to transpose to an Accelerated Dragon.




Yes you are correct, I had a Dragon+Acc. Dragon player in my mind when I wrote this. On one hand you could say that the Acc. Dragon has a completely different character, but this particular line seems to me more KID than Acc. Dragon in spirit.. (despite the fact there are even more "KID-ish" ways to play the Gligoric).

Anyway, maybe no need to confuse everybody here with my post above, the transposition is definitely from KID Gligoric to Acc. Dragon.
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #11 - 06/29/15 at 21:15:13
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You don't need a combo. Try Larsen / Zeuthen
Zoom 001 Zero Hour for Operative Chess Opening Models.

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The principal idea behind Zoom 001 is the creation of "pattern knowledge" of typical middle game/endgame structures-one of a grandmaster's essential qualities-cultivated through the use of the Grunfeld and Catalan openings. Using twenty modern Grandmasters' games, the authors show how these structures typically arise. Included are games by Andersson, Botvinnik, Fischer, Korchnoi, and of course Larsen. By using complete games instead of variations that might be outdated by the next tournament, Larsen and Zeuthen demonstrate that pattern recognition is a timeless skill. By recognizing these typical patterns, you will not only gain a feel for the position, but will be able to effectively form a game plan that will allow you to carry you to won positions.


Against 1.e4 Larsen suggested the Alekhine or Scandinavian to get Grünfeld/Catalan like type of positions.

The modern version is Avrukh GM-Rep (1+2) + his two Grünfeld books.
  
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Re: What are all the good opening combos?
Reply #10 - 06/29/15 at 20:23:30
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chk wrote on 06/29/15 at 14:24:18:
Never tried this "combo", but my first thought when reading the OP's post was Sicilian Dragon & KID. Both aggresive, sound and have the fianchetto similarity. Some of the lines may also transpose (like e.g. in the Gligoric lines of the KID). 
                   



I always felt that the Benoni was a better compliment to the Dragon, than the KID was. Bishop less likely to be blocked by your own pawns, and queenside counter play.
  
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