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Poll Question: After 1. Nf3 f5 what's the objectively best line for White?
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2. d4 Nf6 3. g3    
  0 (0.0%)
2. d4 Nf6 3. c4    
  0 (0.0%)
2. d4 Nf6 3. Bg5    
  3 (17.6%)
2. d4 Nf6 3. Bf4    
  0 (0.0%)
2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. O-O    
  0 (0.0%)
2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. b3    
  1 (5.9%)
2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. d4    
  1 (5.9%)
2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. c4    
  1 (5.9%)
2. c4 Nf6 3. g3    
  3 (17.6%)
2. c4 Nf6 3. Nc3    
  0 (0.0%)
2. c4 Nf6 3. d4    
  0 (0.0%)
2. c4 Nf6 3. b3    
  1 (5.9%)
Something else    
  4 (23.5%)
No opinion / Blank vote    
  3 (17.6%)




Total votes: 17
« Created by: Marc Benford on: 07/11/15 at 23:30:07 »
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Re: What should I play against 1. Nf3 f5 ?
Reply #3 - 07/13/15 at 08:11:26
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I agree these are good suggestions. To add re Leningrad: I propose you start by investigating the double fianchetto lines (in the ML with d4-d5). I see a lot of positional players choose to deal with Leningrad in this way and from a Black's perspective (where my experience comes from), it is not always easy to figure out what you should do. It is one of these lines where you don't try to immediately pressurise Black and both get to "play chess" later on.
  

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Re: What should I play against 1. Nf3 f5 ?
Reply #2 - 07/12/15 at 12:15:29
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TN wrote on 07/12/15 at 02:04:11:
2.c4 Nf6 3.g3 followed by 4.Bg2 and 5.0-0, meeting the Stonewall with a d3/e4 setup and transposing to the main lines with d4/Nc3 against the Iljin-Zhenevsky and the Leningrad. By the way, for this move order you probably want to meet ...d6 with d4 so Black doesn't get in ...e5 in one go.

Good suggestion! Khalifman's books on Kramnik!? Marc, I read you have "Wojo's". Do you also have Avrukh's? You can make a good "fianchetto-repertoire" with these books.
  
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Re: What should I play against 1. Nf3 f5 ?
Reply #1 - 07/12/15 at 02:04:11
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2.c4 Nf6 3.g3 followed by 4.Bg2 and 5.0-0, meeting the Stonewall with a d3/e4 setup and transposing to the main lines with d4/Nc3 against the Iljin-Zhenevsky and the Leningrad. By the way, for this move order you probably want to meet ...d6 with d4 so Black doesn't get in ...e5 in one go.
  

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What should I play against 1. Nf3 f5 ?
07/11/15 at 23:30:07
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Hello.

I start with 1. Nf3, but I don't know exactly what to play against 1...f5 the Dutch.

Ideally my weapon against the Dutch should fit these three criteria:
- It should be an objectively very strong line for White (I like playing the best moves).
- It should tend to lead on average to positional, solid, quiet and strategic games (i.e. not sharp, aggressive and tactical games).
- It should fit well with the rest of my White repertoire: Catalan, Fianchetto KID, Fianchetto Grünfeld, Symmetrical English.

So what exactly should I play against the Dutch?

Thanks in advance for your answers.
  
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