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Re: New Tarrasch Defense Book by Kotronias
Reply #18 - 10/11/19 at 21:01:41
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 10/07/19 at 08:39:41:
I contacted more than one week ago Russell Enterprises by e-mail to ask when this book is released. No answer.


Hey ! Did you get an answer by now ? I thought it would be out 8th of November (amazon) .. ? 

The endgame advice is pretty good. Can someone recommend a good source for the study of this particular 3 vs. 4 Pawns Rook endgame (articles, books which cover it) ? 
  
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Reply #17 - 10/11/19 at 18:51:23
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PANFR wrote on 10/03/19 at 05:29:31:
Learn how to draw the 4 vs 3 rook ending in depth- until you can defend it on autopilot.

perhaps like Jacob A. in banter blitz (aside from the "oops")
https://youtu.be/-2ZZLFrguBQ?t=1235
  
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I contacted more than one week ago Russell Enterprises by e-mail to ask when this book is released. No answer.
  
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Re: New Tarrasch Defense Book by Kotronias
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Your study on the Tarrasch as Black should start assuming the not-so-good case senario: Somehow you messed it up, no great attacking chances, and the d pawn is about to fall. 


Learn how to draw the 4 vs 3 rook ending in depth- until you can defend it on autopilot.
  
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Re: New Tarrasch Defense Book by Kotronias
Reply #14 - 10/03/19 at 02:37:53
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doefmat wrote on 10/02/19 at 18:46:36:
As an amateur club player who reads along, is the Markovich doctrine of playing the Tarrasch still a wise choice for improvement or should one drop it after reaching a certain rating?

Both could be true. 

You could think of the Tarrasch as a half-pawn gambit. Black still has the gambit pawn on d5, but later this pawn might fall. So black must play with great energy to compensate for this lost half-pawn, using almost entirely piece play, or sometimes combinatively thrusting the d-pawn forward. This style of play is a great chess education. If you don't actually like gambits, then forcing yourself to play this way could be bitter medicine, but it could be just the medicine you need.

Once this lesson is absorbed, whether to continue playing the Tarrasch becomes the more pragmatic question of effectiveness. If it still works for you, stay with it. I don't think there is any absolute Elo level where it won't work. Firstly it should suit your natural style. Secondly there will be a few opponents (not that many) whose own style makes this an unwise opening choice against them. Thirdly it comes down to how hard your typical opponent is preparing for it, relative to your own preparations.
  
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doefmat wrote on 10/02/19 at 18:46:36:
As an amateur club player


This is a wide range, from 1200 to 2300.

Personally I used it till 1800. Later I learned the Slav (, or better I started learning). Korchnoi's advise to learn a new opening in case you want to get better has some truth. If you are in a club I would discuss this with someone there, who knows your chess.
  
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As an amateur club player who reads along, is the Markovich doctrine of playing the Tarrasch still a wise choice for improvement or should one drop it after reaching a certain rating?
  
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Re: New Tarrasch Defense Book by Kotronias
Reply #11 - 10/01/19 at 22:56:46
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PANFR wrote on 10/01/19 at 15:10:51:

People still think that white's hand is easy to play, until they lose a bunch of games. I was also under that mentality, when rated around 2300 FIDE, and lost several games as white- then I got the needed seriousness to meet the opening properly.

Yes, it's not automatic for white. USCF Master Matt Noble related to me that so many amateurs would trot out the first nine moves of the Rubinstein variation, and then have no idea how to proceed further. Later I took up the Tarrasch myself and found that even solid masters would start to get hazy at around moves 14-16 of theory. I guess the position seemed "safely" += by then, and they closed the database window to invest their time elsewhere. I did get a few easy draws by outbooking my opponent, and quite a few harder draws by staying active in the endgame. But against Rubinstein's setup, I never won any attacking games like Natsis - Marjanovic.
  
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Re: New Tarrasch Defense Book by Kotronias
Reply #10 - 10/01/19 at 15:10:51
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MW wrote on 09/19/19 at 00:36:56:
Like all of GM Kotronias' books it looks to be a really detailed repertoire.

However, being an older generation player I've never thought of  the Tarrasch as being anything other than difficult for black with the best you can hope for is a draw and perhaps a win only if white doesn't have a clue as to what they are doing...have things changed?


No, very little has changed. People still think that white's hand is easy to play, until they lose a bunch of games. I was also under that mentality, when rated around 2300 FIDE, and lost several games as white- then I got the needed seriousness to meet the opening properly.
I can recall 40 years ago Greek master Natsis, who was playing at 12th Balkaniad (men) (1980), Istanbul, against Yugoslav GM Marjanovic, a Tarrasch devotee. His plan was pretty simple: Securely blocking the IQ pawn, gobbling it, and winning the ending. The plan went almost flawlessly; he did gobble the pawn with a horsie, and supported it in the most economical way: with the king.
You can watch the game, it is a lot of fun!



  
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Reply #9 - 09/30/19 at 16:19:43
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Amazon UK has this listed for release on November 4th.
  
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Re: New Tarrasch Defense Book by Kotronias
Reply #8 - 09/24/19 at 01:48:48
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I looked at the sample, and it is a mess. I hope the editor works harder on the final edition. The table of contents has typos left and right, too numerous to list. The pages by Kotronias looked okay though.

I played the Tarrasch for a while, and still believe it's a tenable defense, but black needs detailed preparation and energetic play to cover the holes. It seems to me that an "everyday" opening should be more positional, so that if the opponent does "nothing" then we can just go on autopilot. There is no autopilot in the Tarrasch -- unless white blunders in a known line, but of course they could have done the same in a different opening. Sadler's words in the introduction were faint praise indeed. "Awkward sidelines" anyone? Nor were Kotronias's words on page 110 very hopeful, unless your opponents typically give you a free hand:

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To the observant eye, it seems that it is suddenly White who is playing the Tarrasch, meaning that a reversal of roles has occurred: Now it will be White and not Black who will have to be careful to maintain the equilibrium!

I have a lot of sympathy for the Tarrasch, at its very best it is a chess education. But having moved on I cannot go back.
  
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Re: New Tarrasch Defense Book by Kotronias
Reply #7 - 09/23/19 at 22:02:11
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From the forward by Mathew Sadler:

"The book you are holding in front of you is exceptional! Tarrasch exponents have been blessed in the past years with some excellent works – Aagaard’s and Ntirlis’ 2011 work in particular – and this book continues this happy trend. It is both a detailed reference manual and a source of inspiration." 

When I first played the Tarrash, the main line was 9Bg5 cxd with isolated queen pawn positions for black. It worked for Spassky in his 1969 world championship match against Petrosian. Thereafter black's results generally disappointed. It seemed to me that black was challenged after several moves around move 12. Perhaps with practice, one could develop a feel for the game and innovate, if need be, over the board.

Aagaard and Ntirlis promoted 9Bg5 c4 and Kotronias emphasizes that move also. Those lines seem very complex, run deepp, and I'm not convinced that they are totally satisfactory for black.

My guess is that many Tarrasch games today would have the same charm and fun as they did in the past, with both players on their own in an open game. Yet you might feel obliged to study deep and hard in the (possibly unsuccessful) attempt to convince yourself that you aren't simply playing a bad opening.

If this book comes out in electronic form, for example CBV files, I would probably buy it for reasons of nostalgia and curiosity. Who knows? I might be convinced and decide to take it up again!
  
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Reply #6 - 09/19/19 at 00:36:56
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Like all of GM Kotronias' books it looks to be a really detailed repertoire.

However, being an older generation player I've never thought of  the Tarrasch as being anything other than difficult for black with the best you can hope for is a draw and perhaps a win only if white doesn't have a clue as to what they are doing...have things changed?
  
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Re: New Tarrasch Defense Book by Kotronias
Reply #5 - 09/18/19 at 21:16:43
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According to amazon.de this book will be available on nov 8th . 
German Amazon is generally late with books published in america,
so the real publication date should be middle or end of october !?

Looking at the excerpt I noticed a typo/omission on page 5:
(C) 5. dxc5 d4 (C1) 6. Na4 b5 7. cxb6 axb6 ...

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Reply #4 - 09/17/19 at 15:11:14
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It looks like a very interesting book!  Smiley
  
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