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Reply #7 - 07/04/21 at 01:25:01
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Reply #6 - 07/03/21 at 23:25:48
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Traditional, Improved, or both?
  
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Reply #5 - 07/03/21 at 15:05:46
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Sokolov will soon be publishing a Samisch Nimzo-Indian repertoire for White on Chessable.
  
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Re: Black Opening Repertoire vs d4 for Online g/ 10 0
Reply #4 - 07/03/21 at 10:28:36
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emary wrote on 07/03/21 at 10:01:43:
                                          4.e3 

I strongly recommend 
Sokolov: The Strategic Nimzo-Indian. 
Sokolov covers all lines of 4.e3 from Black's and White's view. 
(But he does not cover the transpositions to the Saemisch!)


I support this recommendation. This is one of the best opening books ever written.
Several years ago I had the opportunity to ask GM Sokolov about Volume 2, which should be about the Sämisch. Very unfortunately he told me that he had abandoned the idea.
Volume 1 (4.e3) doesn't cover all the lines; the original Hübner Variation 4.e3 c5 5.Bd3 Nc6 6.Nf3 Bxc3+ 7.bxc3, which allows Black to castle queenside, is missing. Cf Gligoric - Van der Wiel, Novi Sad 1982.
Also he refers to Volume 2 for the Botivinnik Variation 4.e3 d5 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 and 7.cxd5.
  

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Re: Black Opening Repertoire vs d4 for Online g/ 10 0
Reply #3 - 07/03/21 at 10:01:43
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Hello, 

my first advice is to stick to the Nimzo-Indian. It is such a rich opening! But very demanding - Black plays on White's home court! 

Although I would change some lines: 
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Qc2 d6!? 
This must be better for White because of the bishops, but it is a frequent choice, if a stronger black player wants to create winning chances. 
Most striking example is Radjabov-Carlsen in the candidates (must win for Carlsen and he was successful). Use a database to study some games of players who use it regularly. It is related to the Bogo, but preparation will be of much help. Black must be flexible. 

                                          4.Qc2 d5 
(5.cxd5 Qxd5!? and 5.a3 Bxc3 6.Qxc3 0-0 7.Bg5 h6!? )
gets excellent coverage by Roiz and is a good alternative: 
(Grandmaster Repertoire The Nimzo-Indian Defence) 

                                          4.e3 

I strongly recommend 
Sokolov: The Strategic Nimzo-Indian. 
Sokolov covers all lines of 4.e3 from Black's and White's view. 
(But he does not cover the transpositions to the Saemisch!)
At last the new book costs only 3 Euro - a real gem. 

You said you don't want d5-systems anymore. 
Then maybe this is interesting: 
4. e3 c5 5.Nge2 b6 (or the more solid 5...Ne4); 
4. e3 c5 5.Bd3 Nc6 6.Nf3 Bxc3 7.bxc3 d6 - the Huebner; 
...                         6.Ne2 cxd4 6.exd4 d5. 
Recently Demuth has done a video series at chess24 about Nimzo/Bogo, 
where he has covered the Huebner with the 4...c5 move-order. 

4.e3 d5!? is another option 
with a likely transposition to the Ragozin with an early e3. This avoids a few boring lines 
which are chosen frequently by White after 4...0-0 + 5...d5
Independent lines after 4...d5 are 
5.Ne2 dxc4!? 6.a3 Ba5; 
5.Bd3 e5! 
5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 c6!? 
Have a look at 
Richard Pert: Playing the Ragozin. 
Chapter 14 is about the e3-Ragozin, 
in chapter 16 you find the independent lines. 
(Richard Pert also covers 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 Nc3 Bb4!?   
Pert gave a complete repertoire against 
1.d4 d5 2.c4 and 1...d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3.c4) 

4.e3 0-0 is the mainline: 
5.Ne2 c6 is recommended by Gustafson at chess24. 
It could still have some surprise value. 
5.Bd3 c5 (but aiming for the classical d5-c5 setup) is also recommended by Gustafson at chess24. 

If you are interested in 4...b6 of the Nimzo systems, then have a look at 
modern-chess.com 
Marin has a  Nimzo-repertoire with b6 against almost everything. 
The preview of modern-chess.com is very fair. 
You are able to find out what they cover and what they don't cover before you buy a database. 

And Hammer will publish a Nimzo-repertoire at chessable soon. 
I cannot get enough of the Nimzo  Smiley

  
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Re: Black Opening Repertoire vs d4 for Online g/ 10 0
Reply #2 - 06/26/21 at 04:19:59
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The Triangle complex is another idea against d4.  You are basically combining the Noteboom, Marshall Gambit, and Dutch Stonewall (or transposing back to mainline Semi-Slavs) but you have to be willing to play against d4 Specials including the delayed Catalan set ups.  The Triangle is sharp but with a relatively limited amount of work because the lines are somewhat forcing.  

Regardless of the computer eval, White's stats are pretty terrible in the Noteboom which is why top players seem to avoid it and prefer the Marshall as White these days.  I think that is because frequently playing the Black side of the flank pawn roller is easier than infrequently defending against it (or attacking behind the stronger White center).  A fast time control should accentuate this familiarity advantage with respect to the pawn roller, which is just a pretty unusual pawn structure.

The numbers for White are pretty good in the Marshall Gambit but so long as you have learned the lines (including 8 Ne2 ) well enough to know some of the piece placements to get developed you'll should do fine as Black and not burn too much clock.  

In the 8 Be2 line, 8 . . . c5 is worth a roll of the dice at that time control instead of 8 . . . Na6. Against some of the White Noteboom sidelines you may end up back in the Semi-Slav (e.g., anti-Meran) but depending on your level you might not have to worry about this so much.

The Tango is fine for 10 0 too if your opponent isn't in a position to prepare a specific line against you.  You'll usually end up playing for 3 results.  

If you aren't so worried about e4 transpositions to the Philidor, Pirc, or Modern then 1 . . . d6 (and if 2 c4 then e5) and 1 . . . g6 (1. d4 g6 2. c4 Bg7 3. Nc3 c5 4. d5 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 f5) leading to the Beefeater/Pterodactyl/Rat, whatever it is called, are good for 10 or 15 minute games too.  These are also time savers.
  
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Re: Black Opening Repertoire vs d4 for Online g/ 10 0
Reply #1 - 06/25/21 at 21:31:25
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Since when the Grünfeld gives an advantage to White? The opening is well respected at all level even for 28XX or supercomputers. I play it at 22xx fide level since almost by beginning, with good results but you need to work and to feel the opening. The most important for any openings: you have to like the resulting positions. As Rowson said in his masterpiece book on the Grünfeld: if you are afraid of a passed d pawn, don't play the Grünfeld

Other ideas for Black: Czech Benoni (less sound but not much work to do), Semi-Slav (perfectly sound but sharp and lot of work), Benko Gambit: positionnaly sound and playable under 27XX).
  
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Black Opening Repertoire vs d4 for Online g/ 10 0
06/25/21 at 20:27:08
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A little background on myself. I've been playing for over 15 years. I'm stopping longer OTB tournaments and plan on only playing maybe 10-15 OTB rapid/blitz events a year. I'm going to focus on Lichess game 10/0 areas. My Lichess rapid rating is in the 2100's.

I don't feel a need to change my white repertoire. Basically, d4-c4-Nc3 try to get some space, develop, castle. Nothing sharp or main-line. 

vs 1. e4 I used to play the open games, but the closed Spanish/Slow Italian are not easy to play in 10 0. I switched to the caro-kann using aggressive lines and the Qa5 Scandi with good results.

vs. 1. d4 I play Nimzo/QGD/Bogo. The Nimzo lines were generally boring solid stuff with d5. Try to get an equal game then outplay my opponent in the middle/endgame. This was fine in longer games (even game 30), but in 10 0 it's not a good strategy. If I'm able to get an equal game but the clock situation is 6 minutes to 2 minutes that is too much to overcome in most games.

I'm looking for an opening that is going to put some pressure on my opponent and make them use some clock. If it's not 100 % sound that is fine, but not completely unsound like Englund Gambit. Avoiding symmetry seems to be the way to go. Here's some choices that I found from my research.

The Grunfeld - White has an advantage but black is putting pressure on white and not the most easiest to convert the center pawn majority in time pressure

Chessable course - The Accelerated Queen's Indian Defense looks questionable but avoids symmetry 

An Idiot-Proof Chess Opening Repertoire - QGA/a6 Slav slightly unusual and avoids symmetry

Nimzo with b6/Vienna

Chigorin - focus is on piece play, don't have to calculate c5 breaks and worry about my lsb

If you have any opinions on my choices or want to add your own suggestions I would appreciate it
  
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