Latest Updates:
Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2 
Topic Tools
Hot Topic (More than 10 Replies) 1.d4 c5 (Read 9594 times)
Smyslov_Fan
God Member
Correspondence fan
*****
Offline


Progress depends on the
unreasonable man. ~GBS

Posts: 6902
Joined: 06/15/05
Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #23 - 10/12/05 at 21:06:44
Post Tools
Not the Brick!!!

A friend of mine, Brian Wall, plays this all the time.  I hate it.

Hmmm....

Maybe you're right, I should play it as White!
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
IM Christoph Wisnewski
Full Member
***
Offline


International Master

Posts: 195
Location: Kiel
Joined: 04/03/05
Gender: Male
Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #22 - 10/12/05 at 09:40:10
Post Tools
Oh no!

You forget that after

1.d4 c5 2.Nh3 d5

White can play 3.e4! and transpose into "The Brick"!  Grin

There is a thread in the Anti-Sicilian section, go have a look Smiley
  

"Chess you don't learn, chess you understand!" (V. Korchnoi)
Back to top
WWWICQ  
IP Logged
 
Smyslov_Fan
God Member
Correspondence fan
*****
Offline


Progress depends on the
unreasonable man. ~GBS

Posts: 6902
Joined: 06/15/05
Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #21 - 08/31/05 at 16:35:52
Post Tools
I'm boooooooooring. after 1.d4 c5 2.d5 Nf6 I play the most predictable move, 3.c4 and let Black transpose into his favorite poison, usually a Benko.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Nods and Winks
Guest


Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #20 - 08/31/05 at 13:32:59
Post Tools
In keeping with the less common lines previously posted by Gambit, and to finally finish my 5 cents worth here, there are two other lines of concern that White might have to face. I believe that some strong players have not been afraid to spit out these out at White from time to time.  Shocked These are: 1.d4 c5 2.d5 Nf6 3.Nf3 c4 called the Hawk Benoni and 3.Nc3 Qa5 called the Woozle. Now, that should keep us busy for awhile !  Wink Keep us abreast of any real findings in this labyrinth.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Gambit
God Member
*****
Offline


I love ChessPublishing
.com!

Posts: 1394
Location: Newark
Joined: 07/26/05
Gender: Male
Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #19 - 08/30/05 at 16:07:04
Post Tools
What is wrong with the Zilbermints Benoni, 1 d4 c5 2 Nf3 cxd4 3 b4!  ?
Nothing, except that it is not well-known. But that is the beauty of it, for your opponent will be confused at this unorthodox opening. 

  Now, 1 d4 c5 2 a3!? is interesting. After 2...cd4 3 Nf3 Nf6  4 b4! tranposes to the ZB.

  Regarding  1 d5 c5 2 Nh3, Blacks plays 2...d5! with the threat of ...Bxh3, ripping open the White Kingside. So, GM Prie, only half your analyses is good.

LOL!

  Grin
  
Back to top
YIM  
IP Logged
 
Nods and Winks
Guest


Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #18 - 08/30/05 at 15:30:44
Post Tools
Shocked I guess I should qualify that last post by saying I would TRY for a Schmidt Benoni. I could have to face a closed Benoni or a Czech Benoni after 1.d4 c5 2.d5 e5 3.e4 but that may not be too worrysome unless a very strong player was moving the Black pieces  Grin. Then there are the lines 1.d4 c5 2.d5 Nf6 3.Nf3 b5 or 3...e6 or 3...g6. The Schmidt Benoni was recommended in Modern Chess Openings by Lane and Killer Chess Opening Repertoire by Summerscale. However, they did not spend much time on the other lines you would have to wade through to get to the Schmidt Benoni. The Schmidt has been played by some very respectable GMs including at least two World Champions that I can verify (Karpov and Botvinik). Did Lothar Schmidt write anything about this opening ?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Winks and Nods
Guest


Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #17 - 02/16/05 at 19:15:15
Post Tools
I would play for a Schmidt Benoni with 2.d5 followed by Nc3.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
GMEricPrie
Full Member
***
Offline


"The most simple moves
are the less complicated"

Posts: 145
Location: France
Joined: 06/18/03
Gender: Male
Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #16 - 02/07/05 at 12:28:31
Post Tools
LOL!

From 2.a3!? to 2.Nh3!? I can see another dozen moves waiting to be 'named after' Cheesy
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Lev D. Zilbermints
Guest


Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #15 - 02/04/05 at 13:43:46
Post Tools
1 d4 c5   Shocked

How about 2 b4!  The Zilbermints Benoni

Or you can try 2 Nf3 cxd4 3 b4! The Modern - Zilbermints - Benoni.

See, after 1 d4 c5  2 b4!  Black has the option of playing  2...cxb4 . However, after 2 Nf3 cxd4  3 b4!
Black no longer has that option.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Strapatzer
Guest


Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #14 - 01/27/05 at 14:39:12
Post Tools
Obviously, 2. d5 is best. But sometimes it is followed by that 2..., f5 thing...
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Glenn Snow
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 1720
Location: Franklin
Joined: 09/27/03
Gender: Male
Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #13 - 10/10/04 at 23:38:53
Post Tools
After 1.d4 c5 2.dxc5 e6 3.Nc3 Bxc5 4.Ne4, I think this is under another thread also, but I'll mention again that Bücker has written that Black has good play with 4...Bb4+ 5.c3 d5.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
alex8
YaBB Newbies
*
Offline


I love ChessPublishing
.com!

Posts: 6
Location: Paris
Joined: 04/06/03
Gender: Male
Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #12 - 10/08/04 at 12:03:58
Post Tools
After 1.d4 c5 2.dxc5 e6 3.Nc3, I am pretty happy when Black takes the pawn immediately:
3...Bxc5 4.Ne4 and I will have two bishops Smiley

Otherwise, he has to spend some more tempi to get back the c5 pawn. Meanwhile, White develops like in the Sicilan... Not a big deal, but a playable alternative to the closed and complicated positions after 2.d5
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
MNb
God Member
*****
Offline


Rudolf Spielmann forever

Posts: 10757
Location: Moengo
Joined: 01/05/04
Gender: Male
Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #11 - 09/07/04 at 02:37:47
Post Tools
A great part of this thread should be replaced at the Anti or Open Sicilian section.
1.d4 c5 is not very common. So it is not handy to transpose to the Morra Gambit, which requires a lot of knowledge.
Alumbrado is right of course, 2.d5 is the normal move. If for some reason White wants to avoid this, 2.c3 (probably transposing to the Slav Exchange Variation) and 2.e3 are the most logical options. 1.d4 c5 2.e3 cxd4 3.exd4 d5 4.c4 Nf6 is a weird transposition to the Panov Variation of the Caro-Kann.
  

The book had the effect good books usually have: it made the stupids more stupid, the intelligent more intelligent and the other thousands of readers remained unchanged.
GC Lichtenberg
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Ben_Hague
Full Member
***
Offline


I'm always happier when
I'm a pawn down.

Posts: 157
Location: Oldham
Joined: 06/20/03
Gender: Male
Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #10 - 09/05/04 at 14:49:49
Post Tools
Actually an early a6 happens in a lot of lines in the Morra. Personally I don't think that it'll make a lot of difference when it's played, I can't see any way to take advantage of it as white's first few moves are fairly fixed.  Maybe white could try to find another square than c4 for the bishop so that b5 is less effective, say with Bd3, but I don't believe it.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
nexirae
Full Member
***
Offline


SMURF!  Soviet Men Under
Red Father!

Posts: 238
Location: Cornell Univ., Ithaca
Joined: 11/03/03
Gender: Male
Re: 1.d4 c5
Reply #9 - 09/05/04 at 14:29:54
Post Tools
1 d4 c5 2 e4 cxd4 3 Nf3 a6

You should mention 4 Nxd4 e5 5 Nf5?! d5! 

Any Sicilian 2 ... a6 players would know this, but maybe not our Benoni players...

(5 ... d6? for example, Ne3!)

Anyway, responding to the Morra with a6 is not the best course of action in the normal move order, so why would it be that great here?  4 c3 dxc3 (d3 no longer looks quite as good, limiting options...) 5 Nxc3 and white has an improvement over the normal gambit in my opinion.  (I am still hazy about this gambit though...) 

Embarrassed
NeX iRae
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2 
Topic Tools
Bookmarks: del.icio.us Digg Facebook Google Google+ Linked in reddit StumbleUpon Twitter Yahoo