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Re: Opening for White according to Kramnik, Volume
Reply #12 - 02/27/06 at 12:02:55
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Re: Opening for White according to Kramnik, Volume
Reply #11 - 02/27/06 at 10:10:07
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Alias wrote on 06/29/05 at 23:57:23:
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Is this List of Contents for the other Kramnik-volumes as well available somewhere on the web?
  
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Re: Opening for White according to Kramnik, Volume
Reply #10 - 07/24/05 at 12:24:00
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I agree with fluffy that these Opening books are definitely the best on the market currently and the Anand series is the better or I should say the most convincing of the two. Grin

Despite the above however and as I am fond of saying, there is no such thing as the perfect repertoire or perfect Opening book, or even perfect chess book. 

Specifically dealing with the Kramnik series I can say there are some big holes in some of the analysis, but such is to be expected with a project of this scope. As a Kings Indian player I was curious and concerned to see how convincing his analysis was going to be for the White side, and  I'm happy to report that KID is still alive.

Sticking with the KID a little while longer, I would like to point out an important ommission that Khalifman fails to address, Namely the following move order:   

1. Nf3 g6 2. c4 Bg7 3. e4 e5 4. d4 exd4 5. Nxd4
Nf6 6. Nc3 O-O 7. Be2 Re8 8. f3 c6 intending d5 with a good game. In fact black is a tempo up compared to a similar line in the KID as he has not lost a tempo on the move d6.

An FM friend of mine following the Khaliman/Kramnik repertoire against an Austrian IM, found himself in the above line and got absolutely zilch as White. Checking the book afterwards for solutions, he discovered there was none!   

I eagerly await the Sicilian installment of the Anand series so that I can compare it with 'Experts vs The Sicilian' which by the way is another 'Topnotch' book. Wink

There are few more soft spots I could point out in the Kramnik series and for that matter the Anand Series too, but I think I will use those discoveries to rack up a few points first. 

To clarify my position, I would state that despite one or two inevitable analytical mistakes and ommissions, Khaliman's Anand and Kramnik series are both excellent and a must have for any serious Chess Players library.   

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Reply #9 - 07/14/05 at 19:16:44
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these books are the best things out there (especially the Anand series) Khalifman does cop out on some lines- like the Slav, Grunfeld, and QGA- but these lines are tough and all 5 books came out in a reasonable time. the Anand series is even better, but there are more "real" lines, so it takes a lot of time.... the Sakaev books are also excellent.
  
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Re: Opening for White according to Kramnik, Volume
Reply #8 - 07/14/05 at 13:07:02
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I bought the "according to Kramnik" books from bgchess when they came out (www.bgchess.com). ; Their prices included shipping (and I think they still do), and their service was fast and pleasant.

If you really want them from a US source, I think they're available from www.chesscafe.com.

  

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Reply #7 - 07/13/05 at 22:08:08
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If you're in the US, here are a couple places that seem to give pretty reasonable prices:

http://www.chess-stars.com/ (publisher's site)
http://shop.gmchess.com/ (Khalifman's site)
http://www.bgchess.com/books2.htm

There are almost certainly more options if you're elsewhere, but shipping from those places to the US probably costs an arm and a leg.
  

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Reply #6 - 07/13/05 at 20:28:23
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On the topic of the "OFW according to Kramnik", does anyone know a site where these can be purchased?  Amazon, Barnes and Noble, etc. are hit and miss with used sellers.  They certainly didn't carry them very long.  I love opening 1Nf3 and it seems there could be no better reference than this series.

Thanks for any suggestions,
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Re: Opening for White according to Kramnik, Volume
Reply #5 - 06/30/05 at 15:05:06
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Thanks for the info, including the table of contents! I wasn't expecting such a detailed listing of the variations, but it's good to know that it deals with many of the lines I'm interested in: the Tarrasch, Semi-Tarrasch, Vienna, and then assorted sidelines. I'm not as interested in the orthodox/classical QGD systems, since I feel like I've picked up many ideas from playing both sides of it, but even if that part is more of an ECO revisited, I don't have ECO volume D!
  

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Re: Opening for White according to Kramnik, Volume
Reply #4 - 06/30/05 at 09:27:46
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I own all five "according to Kramnik" books, and I've found them to be very insightful and helpful.  They are certainly not a rehash of ECO.  Whether they ever represented Kramnik's particular way of playing openings is perhaps debatable, but they are certainly well worth owning, particularly if one is a 1. d4 or 1. Nf3 player.
  

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Re: Opening for White according to Kramnik, Volume
Reply #3 - 06/30/05 at 02:24:11
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I generally found the analysis to be quite good, though Khalifman will occasionally have very sharp and unclear continuations as the suggested line.  (At least in my opinion.)  It is very true that this is more of a repetoire inspired by (a young) Kramnik than faithfully following Kramnik at every turn, but Khalifman almost always recommends what he feels to be the most promising continuation.  Although I do not follow the repetoire, it seems to be a solid repetoire book if you have the time to put into it.  I think that this is discussed in depth in some other thread (maybe one comparing Palliser's text to this series).  Actually, it's a thread that I started, and I don't think I can say things better than Geof Strayer there: 
http://altmax.com/cgi-local/cpf/YaBB.cgi?board=1d4d5;action=display;num=10966068...
  
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Re: Opening for White according to Kramnik, Volume
Reply #2 - 06/30/05 at 00:32:26
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Word of Caution before buying Khalifman's Opening for White According to Kramnik: Shocked

Khalifman doesn't give much in the way of strategic analysis, and his games choices were very much dated at the time of publication.  Most of the lines he gives are snippets from players other than Kramnik.

Here is just one case that is typical of volume 5 (and the entire series):  Chapter 16 (1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 e6 3.c4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Be7 5.Bg5 0-0 6.e3 h6 7.Bh4 Nbd7 8. Rc1 c6) concludes with (p. 252) ...28.Qe4+(in a line that deviated from Fischer-Spassky m/12 1972(!) at move 20) "At this point L. Polugaevsky cut short his analysis in one of the books of the Encyclopaedia of Chess Openings (ECO) without evaluation.  Several years later the practice said his word."  He then gives a column of analysis.

This is all well and good EXCEPT a) There is not a single mention of Kramnik in the entire chapter; b) the analysis up to and including move 27 is "old (almost 20 years old) analysis" by Khalifman's own admission (p. 251), and his own analysis shows there is no substantial change in the perspective that White has a small advantage.   

I bought the books to gain some first class insights into Kramnik's handling of the opening, and instead I get a rehash of ECO.  No thanks.

I have a tremendous respect for former FIDE World Champion Khalifman, but that is inspite of these volumes. Sad

I hope this helps.
  
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Re: Opening for White according to Kramnik, Volume
Reply #1 - 06/29/05 at 23:57:23
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Contents


007 Preface


Part 1. QGD without 3...Sf6

1.Sf3 d5 2.d4 e6 3.c4


011 1 3... Lb4 4.Ld2 Ld2 5.Sbd2 Sf6

015 2 3... f5 4.Lf4 Sf6

020 3 3... c6 4.Dc2 Sf6

040 4 3... c5 4.cd ed 5.Sc3 Sc6 6.g3 Sf6 (6...cd; 6...c4) 7.Lg2 Le7 (7...c4; 7...Le6; 7...Lg4; 7...cd) 8.0-0 0-0 (8...Le6) 9.Lg5 various

069 5 3... c5 4.cd ed 5.Sc3 Sc6 6.g3 Sf6 7.Lg2 Le7 8.0-0 0-0 9.Lg5 cd


Part 2. QGD without 4....Le7

1.Sf3 d5 2.d4 e6 3.c4 Sf6 4.Sc3


080 6 4... Sbd7 5.Lg5 Lb4; 5..h6

087 7 4... Lb4 5.cd ed 6.Lg5 h6 7.Lh4 c5; 7... g5

091 8 4... dc 5.e4 Lb4 6.Lg5 c5 (6...b5) 7.Lc4 cd 8.Sd4 various

105 9 4... dc 5.e4 Lb4 6.Lg5 c5 7.Lc4 cd 8.Sd4 Lc3

113 10 4... c5 5.cd Sd5 (5...cd) 6.e4 Sc3 7.bc cd 8.ed Lb4 (8..Sc6) 9.Ld2 Ld2 10.Dd2 0-0 11.Lc4 Sc6 (11...b6; 11...Sd7) 12.0-0 b6 13.Tad1 Lb7 14.Tfe1 Tc8 15.d5 ed

135 11 4... c5 5.cd Sd5 6.e4 Sc3 7.bc cd 8.ed Lb4 9.Ld2 Ld2 10.Dd2 0-0 11.Lc4 Sc6 12.0-0 b6 13.Tad1 Lb7 14.Tfe1 Tc8 15.d5 Sa5


Part 3. QGD. Classical Variation

1.Sf3 d5 2.d4 e6 3.c4 Sf6 4.Sc3 Le7 5.Lg5


143 12 5... dc; 5... h6; 5... Sbd7

155 13 5... 0-0 6.e3 Sbd7 (6...a6) 7.Tc1 various

187 14 5... 0-0 6.e3 Sbd7 7.Tc1 c6

208 15 5... 0-0 6.e3 h6 7.Lh4 Sbd7 (7...Se4) 8.Tc1 various

239 16 5... 0-0 6.e3 h6 7.Lh4 Sbd7 8.Tc1 c6

253 17 5... 0-0 6.e3 h6 7.Lh4 b6


268 Index of Variations

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If you're interested in these lines, I would think this is by far the best source. Theory hasn't changed very much in these particular lines since the publication date.
  

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Opening for White according to Kramnik, Volume 5
06/29/05 at 22:02:54
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Hi everyone,

Does anybody have this book? What lines does Khalifman treat in this volume, and is the book still worth buying even though it is a couple years old?

Thanks.
  

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