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Re: Open Sicilian for the White amateur?
Reply #48 - 10/10/05 at 00:34:40
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Bc4 does not prevent the accelerated dragon or make it bad for black like in the case of the classical dragon. its strategy if used against the accelerated dragon is different - to restrain or delay black's d5 break.

The best way (i feel) against the accelerated dragon would be the yugoslav attack with a Bc4 after Qd2 (to make way for 0-0-0). Storm kingside after castling q-side.
  
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Re: Open Sicilian for the White amateur?
Reply #47 - 10/09/05 at 21:48:12
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BK, 

Take a look at the thread on the Move Order in the  Accelerated Dragon for some information that may be helpful to you there.
  
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Reply #46 - 10/09/05 at 18:08:59
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thanks but what about the variation wher black delays Nc6 in preferance for an inmediate g6? does it still apply?
  
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Re: Open Sicilian for the White amateur?
Reply #45 - 10/07/05 at 20:21:43
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BK, then by all means learn how to play it (& against it). imo its better than the Bg5 Najdorf or the Richter Rauzers in the sense that its easier to understand, far less theoretical & it offers a quite a fair bit of aggression as well.
  
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Reply #44 - 10/07/05 at 18:26:36
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wow thank you very much as well as i am not a big fan of the yugoslav but like this Bc4 stuff
  
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Reply #43 - 10/07/05 at 12:11:15
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Thanks Willempie for offering the explanation. I simply couldnt remember the reason other than 6.Bc4 g6 is bad for black. Grin Roll Eyes Grin
  
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Re: Open Sicilian for the White amateur?
Reply #42 - 10/07/05 at 07:28:13
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It disallows the dragon from a classical move-order, which is available after moves like 6 Be2. Eg
1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 Nc6 6 Bc4 and now 6 .. g6 is not good. I am typing from memory but I thought 7 Nxc6 bxc6 8 e5 gets black into real trouble.
  
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Reply #41 - 10/06/05 at 08:45:36
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I think that Bc4 is a good commom system that works against a no. of Sicilians - Najdorf, Classical & Scheveningen + it disallows the Dragon & Boleslavsky effectively.


Hiowdoes 6.Bc4 dissalow the dragon?
  
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Reply #40 - 10/06/05 at 08:43:32
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heh i havent unzipped it yet but will do so soon
  
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Re: Open Sicilian for the White amateur?
Reply #39 - 10/06/05 at 00:32:31
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BK, 
Does that site include Fischer's analysis?  Without the analysis it's worth about what you pay for.
  
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Reply #38 - 10/05/05 at 23:50:44
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woofwoof,

yes, they're asking crazy prices for Fischer's My 60 Memorable Games.  Luckily, there's a recent French edition I just bought new for 27 EUR, 10 times less than the most expensive English version on Amazon.com Wink If you're interested, I can give you the particulars.

Cheers


you know ya all can just down load em from chessopolis for free in PGN format. No money ivloved and harley anytime to download!
  
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Re: Open Sicilian for the White amateur?
Reply #37 - 09/27/05 at 11:21:47
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Smyslov Fan,

Correction, Black DID vary with d5 a number of times,  but with correct play White held the upper hand...

woofwoof,

Thank you for sharing your experience with me!

I do have John Emms' Starting Out:  the Sicilian and I think it's a marvellous book.  It's the first book that helped me through the apparent jungle of variations in the Open Sicilian and made sense of them.  I think the Starting Out formula works very well for everyone who wants to learn a new opening and just stick to the essentials to start with.  In fact, I have a Starting Out for most of the openings I play and they all were- and still are- very helpful!

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Re: Open Sicilian for the White amateur?
Reply #36 - 09/27/05 at 10:51:33
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Mad_knight, I can see that you are really full of the fire of enthusiasm at the moment. Good! keep it up & enjoy yourself in the process.

As you get on feeling your way round the various sicilians, i need to emphasise the need to understand the basic tactical & strategical goals for both white & black in each system. This is far more important than memorising tonnes of lines & variations. Line & variations will get obsolete or refuted with time but the basics will always remain, & all the variations have their roots in the basics. I would suggest that you get a good simple book which explains in a simple way all the basics of the sicilian. The Starting Out: The Sicilian by John Emms seems to have good reviews & discusses all the various popular Sicilian systems-a good simple & general book.  Daniel King's Winning with the Najdorf is also an excellant book which explains the Najdorf more in words rather than lines;just that Im not sure if you would like a 'specialist' type of book right now.

My only regret was that I only realised this truth 20 yrs after my retirement from competitive chess. I never got very far with memorisation of lines, but I feel i'm playing much better chess at present, after understanding  the ideas of the openings I play even tho severely backdated on opening theory!



  
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Re: Open Sicilian for the White amateur?
Reply #35 - 09/27/05 at 10:13:26
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Hi Smyslov Fan,

Good question, I'll try and find out what's the matter.

On your earlier remark re. the Accelerated Dragon, I went to the Dragon forum and got a bit taken aback:  7 web pages to wade through to find something about the Accelerated... Can I maybe refer you to the site
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessopening?eco=B35 so you see what type of move order I use in playing the Accelerated to transpose to a normal Dragon, from which position I continue with the Yugoslav Attack?  As far as I could verify, at no time was Black able to vary with d5.

Hi Willempie,

Thanks for those encourageing comments!

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Re: Open Sicilian for the White amateur?
Reply #34 - 09/27/05 at 09:49:41
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Well to be fair, I think spending more than an hour on the O'Kelly is overly generous. I cant imagine any reasonable looking move being bad for white. I believe I have never faced it and probably wont for some years to come.
  
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