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Re: Karpov's upcoming book on the Caro
Reply #28 - 02/21/07 at 15:19:29
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recently i received Karpov's Advance volume...
The translation could be better (the summary of 3. f3 on page 31 is hilariously baffling: "In the Gambit system, everyone can be as busy as he likes..."), the presentation is horrible (think Psakhis's French), no games newer than 2004, omissions and gaps in theoretical coverage etc etc... Hansen is right.

But i must conclude this book is a must-buy!   Karpov's opinions on various systems is always interesting (his thoughts on sidelines like 3. e5 Bf5 4. c4, 4. h4 etc are worth noting). I think a book ought to be a guiding hand (especially to paths that should be further investigated by each player)  rather than an encyclopaedia in this age of databases, and on this criteria Karpov acquits himself reasonably. 

on hansen's scale, i rate this book 3.5/5 stars, plus an extra star for being the only such work available in the market, and the fact that it's by Karpov!
  
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Reply #27 - 12/19/06 at 19:15:50
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Amazon made me wait longer than they originally said too, but I did get my copy of volume 2 last week.

For me, you can't have too much analysis. But my point was that if a sideline gets 5 pages, it is a bit strange to only give the mainline 1 page.

Agree you can correct the books weaknesses with a database. My criticiism was that you pretty much have to, or you wont know what lines you are likely to see over the board. 

Personally I do like an author to point me in the right direction, I never have the time to look at all the raw games properly. In fact that is why I like this site, I would have ignored the qa4 game if Jonathan had not included it.
  
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Reply #26 - 12/19/06 at 01:34:00
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I'm a little confused by the recent evaluations (for some reason, amazon has not yet shipped my two volumes  Angry).  There's too much analysis??  I can appreciate that a lack of prose and discussion could be a little frustrating, but my sense is that the Caro Kann's theory has not been adequately collected in many years.  While some sense of critical lines would be nice, I can always find these online or in a database...
  

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Re: Karpov's upcoming book on the Caro
Reply #25 - 12/19/06 at 00:36:15
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I have both of the volumes released so far, and overall I am happy to have them. But I think Hansen's three star rating is fair, and could probably be applied to the second volume too. 

Batsford designate the book for club players, but the analysis is deeper than that in any other recent caro book I have, even if it has clearly been delayed since 2004. However the book is often hard to follow, without clear structure, recommendations, or indication what are the critical lines.

For example, the worst example seems to be in the chapter on 1e4 c6 2c4. The chapter is 30 pages long, and covers some sidelines I've never seen in reasonable detail. But the mainline 2...d5 3cd cd 4 ed nf6 is not included, and only appears in the illustrated games. If you didn't know that most GM games (including Karpov's) follow this, you might think 4..qd5 was the mainline, since this is the only move given after 4ed.

For me, with a few years caro experiance, I am happier to have an uneven book with interesting analysis rather than a nicely produced but superficial one. But I do not think I would recommend this series to someone thinking of learning the opening from scratch.
  
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Reply #24 - 12/10/06 at 11:59:30
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Just realised an error above- review was at Chesscafe 

Sorry !
  
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Reply #23 - 12/10/06 at 11:58:28
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I've got to say that IMHO the review at Chessbase is a bit over the top. The book is very good and I would say it was worth nearer a 4star bordering on 5star rating due to its analysis. 

And for good measure how Carsten gave Pedersen's French 5 stars was beyond my comprehension. Overall I think Carsten calls it right about 90 % of the time and I do value his initial reviews to see whether a book is worth looking at myself.

I have no information on Carsten's german translation - I wouldn't be surprised if this book has been at the printers for quite a while as I've been aware of this Caro book for almost 2 years now !

Finally, this is a 3 volume series and I believe that Vol 3 is to cover Nd7 and Bf5 - I don't know whether Nf6 is going to be examined.


  
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Reply #22 - 12/09/06 at 23:18:07
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odpc wrote on 12/09/06 at 21:26:29:
But are these books really good ?

As you can see on Chesscafe.com (Checkpoint by Carsten Hansen ) on the firt one :
www.chesscafe.com/hansen/hansen.htm

"There are a number of problems with this book. First and foremost is that I am unable to locate any game references after 2004. In fact, the entire Illustrative Games section, which itself is rather old-fashioned, only has games from 2004. Secondly, the book suffers from a poor translation and lazy editing."
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"There are also several inconsistencies between this book and one published in German in 2005, Caro-Kann Verteidigung... richtig gespielt, authored by Karpov!"

So I will wait and see for the volume 2...



Well, to be fair, Hansen also did say "Still, not everything about this book is bad, it has plenty of original analysis and improvements over existing theory, and those who play these lines from either side should invest in it."

  

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Re: Karpov's upcoming book on the Caro
Reply #21 - 12/09/06 at 21:26:29
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But are these books really good ?

As you can see on Chesscafe.com (Checkpoint by Carsten Hansen ) on the firt one :
www.chesscafe.com/hansen/hansen.htm

"There are a number of problems with this book. First and foremost is that I am unable to locate any game references after 2004. In fact, the entire Illustrative Games section, which itself is rather old-fashioned, only has games from 2004. Secondly, the book suffers from a poor translation and lazy editing."
and
"There are also several inconsistencies between this book and one published in German in 2005, Caro-Kann Verteidigung... richtig gespielt, authored by Karpov!"

So I will wait and see for the volume 2...
  
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Re: Karpov's upcoming book on the Caro
Reply #20 - 12/09/06 at 13:27:47
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The backcover of the volume one (advance system) promised 
"further volumes on panov attack and classical lines"
  
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Reply #19 - 12/09/06 at 12:52:36
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HgMan wrote on 12/08/06 at 21:50:53:
Is there any word on whether there will be a third Karpov book on the Caro dealing with mainline 4...Bf5 and 4...Nd7 ?  For all the glut of recent books on the Caro, these lines remain somewhat under-represented.  I still turn to my old Gufeld book (1998) for 4...Nd7, but it is covered with margin notes.  It would be really nice to see a heavy monograph that dealt with the mainline Caros...




My understanding from what i read somewhere was that Karpov was doing a full series on the caro-kann. So I would expect at least a third book or possibly a third and fourth.
  

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Reply #18 - 12/08/06 at 21:50:53
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Is there any word on whether there will be a third Karpov book on the Caro dealing with mainline 4...Bf5 and 4...Nd7 ?  For all the glut of recent books on the Caro, these lines remain somewhat under-represented.  I still turn to my old Gufeld book (1998) for 4...Nd7, but it is covered with margin notes.  It would be really nice to see a heavy monograph that dealt with the mainline Caros...

  

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Re: Karpov's upcoming book on the Caro
Reply #17 - 12/08/06 at 21:29:28
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TalJechin wrote on 05/31/06 at 18:29:10:

If I was a Caro player I'd be more interested in Houska's upcoming book on it.


This seems to be a repertoire book. Any idea if she will be covering 4...Bf5 or will she be covering 4...Nd7?


  

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Reply #16 - 11/28/06 at 18:06:32
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tracke wrote on 11/28/06 at 17:17:32:
According to german distributor Niggemann (usually well informed)
the second english volume (Panov) will be avaible on Dec 8th 2006.

tracke  Smiley

I bought it yesterday! (at The Chess & Bridge Centre in Euston Road, London)
  
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Re: Karpov's upcoming book on the Caro
Reply #15 - 11/28/06 at 17:17:32
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According to german distributor Niggemann (usually well informed)
the second english volume (Panov) will be avaible on Dec 8th 2006.

tracke  Smiley
  
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Re: Karpov's upcoming book on the Caro
Reply #14 - 09/25/06 at 12:43:11
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This is certainly out in the UK now.

Anyone who was traumatised by the layout in the Psakhis french books should I think be happy that they seem to have done a much better job this time - more space, indexes after each chapter etc. Still not really as nice as Gambit but almost enough to make you wish they'd publish an 'updated' edition of the Psakhis books Smiley
  
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