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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #133 - 08/14/06 at 08:16:03
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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #132 - 08/11/06 at 20:15:06
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Answer to THE KING: I was on vacation, sorry for the delay.
The situation at top level is absolutely irrelevant to our choice of opening. It seems they all think that 1...e5 is the only correct answer to 1.e4 and they may be right. Even Delchev now is trying hard to master the Spanish. 
Now about the Kan - I have never played that nor have we discussed it with Delchev. There were several Bulgarian GMs playing it regularly and since my youth I remember that everybody considered Bd3, 0-0, c4 as awkward for Black. My personal opinion is that a normal Maroczy Bind - without exchanged pieces or lost tempi like Nd4-b5-a3 - gives White a lasting edge. In fact any spatial advantage which cannot be compensated with concrete play is an edge in itself. The stronger the opponent - the more oppressing is to defend such positions in a tournament. No wonder nowadays Black prefers in the Sicilian variations with ...e5. I'm unable to provide concrete variations though.   
  
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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #131 - 08/02/06 at 11:04:38
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The reason I ask the above question is that I have always played the Kan, but recently bought Delchev and Semkov's book and was thinking of switching to the Taimanov.  In the introduction Delchev talks about the various problems with other Sicilians but doesn't mention the Kan.


I just switched from a Kan hybrid to the "Safest" Taimanov and I am very happy with it. I find the variations given "easy" to play. With the Kan I sometimes got in trouble against lower rated players, because of king-side attacks. Besides the Taimanov is also more active. The taimanov is and was also the choice of world class players and even world champions. The safest sicilian book made this switch quick and easy, and last but not least the variations given look very robust.

So as far as I am concerned, a very good book on a sound and active opening, what more can you want?

  
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Reply #130 - 08/01/06 at 20:00:07
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What puts me off the Kan is 5.Bd3. If you prefer trench warfare to direct piece play, than the Kan should be your chioce over the Taimanov. A matter of taste.
  
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Reply #129 - 08/01/06 at 19:16:21
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The reason I ask the above question is that I have always played the Kan, but recently bought Delchev and Semkov's book and was thinking of switching to the Taimanov.  In the introduction Delchev talks about the various problems with other Sicilians but doesn't mention the Kan.
  
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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #128 - 08/01/06 at 13:22:58
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I would like to ask Semkov if he thinks the Taimanov variation in his book is a better choice than the Kan (1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 a6) and why?

Which is the more trusted weapon at the top level?

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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #127 - 07/01/06 at 19:32:58
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Thank you for the response, Semko; I'll have to look over your analysis and get back to you later!  It's very generous of you to respond to everyone's questions about the opening.
  
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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #126 - 06/29/06 at 18:17:07
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Today I saw the discussion about 13.c4. After only a brief look at the position, I must say that it seems very attractive for Black. The key point is that Black is very active! White saved us from the only problem  piece - the c8-bishop, and gave us a fantastic outpost on d5. As usual in this line, our primary concern should be how to activate the rook from b8. 15...0-0? may be good, but it contradicts this principle because after 16.Bf4 the rook should retreat to a8. What a shame! So the first move, which strikes, me is 15...a5. Perhaps it is best. Let ponder however over 15...Nd5!? In my opinion Black has an obvious initiative there. He should aim at doubling the rooks on the g-file or including the queen into play. The a6-pawn should be beyond our attention. Here are some variations: 
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nc3 Qc7 6.Be3 a6 7.Be2 Nf6 8.0-0 Bb4 9.Na4 Be7 10.Nxc6 [10.Nb6 Rb8 11.Nxc6 bxc6 12.Nxc8 Qxc8 13.c4 Nxe4 14.Qd4 Nf6 15.c5  Nd5 (15...a5!? 16.a3 Nd5!) 16.Qxg7 Bf6 17.Qg3 (17.Qh6 Ke7 18.Rab1 Rb4 19.g3 Qg8 with initiative) 17...h5 18.Rad1 (18.Bxa6 h4)  18...h4!? (18...Rxb2 19.Rb1 h4 20.Qd6 (20.Qf3 Qb8) 20...Be7 21.Qe5 Bf6=) 19.Qf3 Ke7 20.b3 Qc7 21.Bc4 Be5 22.h3 Rbg8 23.Rfe1 Rg7with initiative. 

  
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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #125 - 06/20/06 at 15:31:49
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I don't know if it was deliberate or not, but I actually think my opponent's move order was very sneaky!  In the move order given by Delchev/Semkov, after 10.c4 Nxe4 11 Nxc6 bxc6 12 Qd4 Nf6 13 Nb6 Rb8, Black can play 14.Nxc8 Rxc8! because the pawn on a6 isn't hanging.  I think Burgess mentions this position, and he gives 14...Qxc8 a dubious mark (I think; I'm not at home to check the book).  The trouble is, this way Black can't play ...b6 right away.  So it looks like my opponent's move order has forced me into a dubious line (according to Burgess), unless I don't take the pawn on move 13.

Actually, what I played in the game:
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cd 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nc3 Qc7 6.Be2 a6 7.0-0 Nf6 8.Be3 Bb4 9.Na4 Be7 10.Nb6 Rb8 11.Nxc6 bc 12.Nxc8 Qxc8 13.c4 Nxe4 14.Qd4 Nf6 15.c5 0-0!? (this is a novelty according to Burgess) 16.Bf4 Ra8 17.Be5 Rd8 18.Rfd1 Ne8 is also probably fine for Black; I guess I was a little upset at not being able to "punish" White, and because I only drew against someone rated 150 points below me.

Fritz's suggestion of 15...Qb7 is cute in a "computer" kind of way.  In the game, I looked at 15...Qb7 but dismissed it due to 16.Bf4 Qxb2 17.Qd3!, when I couldn't find a satisfactory way for Black to continue.  Fritz suggests 17...e5, but a human doesn't play chess like this (at least I don't)!  Anyway, I'll have to look at 16...Qb4 instead of taking the b2-pawn.

Thank you for the help!
  
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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #124 - 06/20/06 at 07:52:16
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Hello,

     Have looked again at 14 ...d5, and the line you gave, seems like you are right that white can cause problems there.
         What I did notice, when looking through Semko/Delchev book is that the 10c4 line can transpose to your game. In other  words after, 

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cd 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nc3 Qc7 6.Be2 a6 7.0-0 Nf6 8.Be3 Bb4 9.Na4 Be7 10.c4, after 10Nb6 Rb8 is recommended by Delchev, 
10 ... Nxe4 11 Nxc6, the other approach were could give the story of keeping more "bits on" with 11c5 is more common in high level games, 
11 ... bxc6 12 Qd4 Nf6 13 Nb6 Rb8  when 14NxB QxB 15 c5 transposes to your game, whilst after 14 c5 d6 immediately is recommended. You could say that 14NxB is a typical lower rated novelty. Going to that effort to remove black's bad bishop does not look like an improvement. Anyway, it gives a clue that your play was fine up to move 15. Fritz suggests here 15... Qb7, so that if 16Bf4 Qb4. Then, one line is 16 Bd3 0.0 17 Qh4 Qxb2 18 Bxh7+ Nxh7 19 Qxe7 Nf6. The story now is white is not getting a bind, and struggling to find compensation for the pawn. It is amusing to look at the stories I put to bad moves earlier in the thread, suppose that's what weakies like me do. If the above, is at all close to the truth, then the conclusion is, your game continuation is an inferior version of the 10c4 pawn sac line. 
    It is interesting to speculate if your opponent was deliberately tricky, with moves like 10Nb6, or got lucky with a shakey memory of the 10c4 line  Grin.
        At the same time at looking at this, had a quick look at 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nc3 Qc7 6.Be3 a6 7.Be2 Nf6 8.0-0 Bb4 
9.Na4 Be7 10.Nxc6 bxc6 11.Nb6 Rb8 12.Nxc8 Qxc8 13.Bd4 0-0 from Anand v Polgar. Later in the game saw the eye catching advice of, keeping the queens on, and staying completely passive. How often do you see advice like that  Shocked. Not suprisingly the main recommendation is the more active 13 ...c5.

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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #123 - 06/19/06 at 19:42:52
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Sorry MarinFan, I appreciate your interest!  I also agree that it's hard to believe that 13...Nxe4 isn't the right move, but I don't trust 15...Nd5, and after 15...0-0 16.Bf4 Ra8 17.Be5 White has definite compensation (though the position is perhaps only equal).  I think my main problem has been searching for a "refutation"; since the position after 12...Qxc8 has been reached literally hundreds of times but White had never played the natural 13.c4, I assumed there must be something wrong with it (or at least have some recommended theoretical antidote somewhere).   

@Inn2, I had looked at 13...Qc7 a bit (I saw 14.Qc2? Qe5!), but never in conjunction with the "Taimanov" 14. Bd3 h5!?.  Thanks for the idea; I'll have to look at it a bit and see what I think.

In general I think there are a few ways for Black to remain pretty close to equal, but I don't see a way to "punish" White, which is what I was really hoping for...
  
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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #122 - 06/19/06 at 11:00:32
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Umm, thought I was showing some interest, and had made similar comments about  15... Nd5, and 10Nb6 before you. 
                  I could have put more analysis with 14... d5, but was making a judgement, that black was keeping the white square bishop under control, so looks the way for black to go.
                 Hard to believe that 13 ... Nxe4 isn't the right move. In the similar, 10 c4 line, in the first high level game Larsen v Karpov, Karpov avoided 10... Nxe4, but that looked like a typical safety-first reaction from him on seeing a novelty.(The Delchev book covers 10... Nxe4).
  
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Reply #121 - 06/19/06 at 02:08:18
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13. c4 is interesting, if White refrains from 13. e5 or 13. Bd4 (intending e5), a suitable punishment is 13... Qc7, preventing e5 from ever occuring (14. Bd4 e5), and still maintainng the threat to take either b2 or e4 pawn. I also like the look of the typical Taimanov move 13... Qc7 14. Bd3 h5!? 

More worrying is the early pawn sac 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cd 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nc3 Qc7 6.Be2 a6 7.0-0 Nf6 8.Be3 Bb4 9.Na4 Be7 10 c4!? which i thought was rather dangeours a few years ago, perhaps this was dealt with adequately in Delchev/Semkov book?!
  
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Reply #120 - 06/18/06 at 22:36:43
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Hello guys; it kind of seems like I'm the only one interested in this line, but I'll share what I've looked at so far...

I no longer think 15...Nd5 is an improvement for Black, due to 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cd 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nc3 Qc7 6.Be2 a6 7.0-0 Nf6 8.Be3 Bb4 9.Na4 Be7 10.Nb6 Rb8 11.Nxc6 bc 12.Nxc8 Qxc8 13.c4!? Nxe4 14.Qd4 Nf6 15.c5 Nd5 16.Qxg7 Bf6 17.Qh6 Rxb2 18.Bc4 Qd8 19.Rab1! White looks better.

I'm now starting to question taking the pawn right away, and think maybe something simple like 13...d6 (still threatening both the e4 and b2 pawns) is the right move.  Still, doesn't White look better with those nice Bishops and no weaknesses after something like 14.Qc2?

I must admit that I thought more people would be interested in this line, given the popularity of the Delchev/Semkov book.  This novelty (13.c4!?) strikes right at the heart of the repertoire!  Even if it isn't anything to worry about theoretically, I thought there would be more players who want to know the best lines for Black!?
  
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Reply #119 - 06/16/06 at 16:56:27
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@MarinFan:
After 14....d5 there are a few options for White instead of exchanging queens.  For instance, how about the straightforward: 

13.c4 Nxe4 14.Qd4 d5 15.Qxg7! Bf6 16.Qh6 Bxb2 [if 16...Rxb2 17.Bd3! and White seems to have more than enough compensation]. Now perhaps 17.Rae1!?, to avoid ...Nc3.  Anyhow, Black has a pawn, but White has the two Bishops and Black has lots of dark-squared K-side weaknesses.  I'm not sure who is better, but White definitely has compensation (and this is not something I would really want to play as Black OTB without first doing some homework).

I actually hope that some of the stronger (i.e. titled) players could take a look at this; Black's best line of play is not at all clear to me. 

 

  
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