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Re: Blumenfeld
Reply #18 - 05/15/06 at 19:16:34
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4.Nc3 cxd scores decently.
  

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Reply #17 - 05/15/06 at 17:50:20
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This does get tricky.  I had imagined making the Nimzo-Indian the main plank of my defense to 1 d4, but needed a response to 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3.  I may still opt for the Queen's Indian, but the Blumenfeld realy appeals.  But it does seem as though committing to 3 ... c5 means that Black should prepare not only 4 d5 b5, but also 4 Nc3 d5 and the Semi-Tarrasch.  For correspondence chess, this kind of preparation is less immediately onerous, as less memorization is required, but I'll have to think seriously about the compatibility of these various positions when it comes to middlegame ideas (it makes the QID seem more attractive, though I'm not sure I'm ready to give up on the Blumenfeld)...
  

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Reply #16 - 05/15/06 at 01:24:46
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1. Because of 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4.cxb5 e6 5.Nc3! exd5 6.Nxd5 Bb7 7.e4! Nxe4 8.Bc4!
Before the game I had prepared an "improvement", but later found, that White could refute it. So this road does not lead to Rome, alas.
Still maybe I was to hasty. Black can try 7...Nxd5 8.exd5 d6, though I don't really trust it.

2. Here you essentially do not contradict me: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 and Black has to play something else.

You're a bit unfair to say, that 8.e4 looks awful. It has been rather popular among much stronger players than I am. Moreover stronger players than me have been crushed after it, for instance because they played 10...Nxe5??
Alas 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 c5 3.Nc3 only avoids the Anti-Benoni, if Black is willing to play the Semi-Tarrasch (d5). I found it rather hard, to build a consistend repertoire with the Blumenfeld.
  

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Re: Blumenfeld
Reply #15 - 05/14/06 at 16:07:11
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MNb wrote on 03/27/06 at 02:29:27:
Yes I have. NIC has published the following game with analysis in yearbook 66 or so:

Kögeler-MNb,
corr NBC H-428 (about 1998)

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4.cxb5 e6 5.dxe6 fxe6 6.Nf3 d5
This move order is not correct. Black only should play the Blumenfeld after White has played Nf3.

7.Nc3 Nbd7 8.e4?
One can find this recommendation in several older sources. But White is already lost.

8...d4 9.e5 Ng4 10.Ne4 Bb7
The goal of a gambit is not to grab back the pawn at the first occasion. I find it amazing, how many Black players have played Nxe5 and lost.

11.Bd3 c4 12.Nxd4 Bb4+
My refinement of Przewoznik's analysis.

13.Nc3 Qh4 14.Qd3 Nxe5 15.Bf1 o-o
The game is over. After 16.g3 Qh5 17.f3 Nxf3+ 18.Nxf3 Bxf3 19.Rg1 Qe5+ 20.Be2 Rad8 21.Qc2 Ne3 22.Bxe3 Qxe3 23.Rf1 Bg2 White resigned.

As I have switched to another active Black opening since then, I will be happy to share my ideas on the Blumenfeld.


MNb: Thanks again for sharing this game.  8 e4 looks awful and 12 ... Bb4+ is a nice move.

I was interested, though, in your comment after move 6 that Black should only enter into the Blumenfeld after Nf3, and that got me to thinking about a couple things:

1. Why?

2. It seems as though Black can enter into the Blumenfeld through either a Benoni approach (1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 c5 3 d5 b5 4 cxb5 e6) or through a Nimzo-QID (1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3 c5 4 d5 b5).  All roads eventually lead to Rome, I suppose, but is there any merit to one over the other?  It would appear that the Nimzo-QID would ensure that White plays Nf3 first.  Presumably, one needs to have the Nimzo ready in case 3 Nc3 is played, but it also seems to avoid the anti-Benoni lines.
  

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Reply #14 - 05/11/06 at 03:03:11
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The latter. For a couple of years I played the Dutch IZ only OTB, as I thought it too risky for corr. chess. The IZ better suits my style, not to mention all the White deviations from a NID/Blumenfeld repertoire.
  

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Reply #13 - 05/11/06 at 01:04:02
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I've now read in a couple of places NCO (Burgess) 1.d4 (Palliser) that "the Blumenfeld deserves to be more popular" -- I'll check later when I have a chance, but I think something very similar to that appears in both.  I was never sure whether that was an indication of surprise on the part of the author, or some sort of backhanded compliment (in case that phrase doesn't translate well: meaning that the Blumenfeld is not good, but worse opening are more popular).

I wonder, with HgMan, whether it would be worth learning, and I am finally on the verge of actually sitting down and figuring out whether it would be a reasonable choice.   As a result, I am a bit curious as to why MNb has given it up -- is it because of a particular critical variation, or simply in order to have a more generic response to d4 (and not have a Nf3/Nc3 split in one's repertoire)?
  
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Reply #12 - 05/10/06 at 18:55:11
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Well I'm retooling my repertoire for an important correspondence tournament that begins this summer, and thought I might try to put it in tandem with the Nimzo-Indian as my response to 1 d4.  I'm not so sure there's anything terribly wrong with it--is semi-respectable an objective evaluation or a response to fashion?--although it does look peculiarly schizophrenic (part Benoni, part Benko).

MNb: I have been meaning to reply to your post at the beginning of this thread for some time, but haven't yet found the time to sit down with the game.  I'll try to reply soon...
  

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Reply #11 - 05/10/06 at 14:36:20
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I think everyone has dabbled in the Blumenfeld at one time or another, it almost became semi-respectable one time.
  
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Reply #10 - 04/28/06 at 02:42:41
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6...d6 never had a good reputation. I wonder why Ward chose it. The fixed pawns on the black squares give White all the joy.
  

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Reply #9 - 04/17/06 at 10:56:51
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I agree that the Blumenfeld is synonomous with the Benoni, but isn't it usually covered here as a daring Defence? At any rate, enjoy Black's play in the great scrap: Tregubov-Ward, Reykjavik 2006.
  
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Reply #8 - 04/06/06 at 02:48:54
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Don't be sorry. Doubt is the mother of progress in opening theory.  Cheesy
  

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Reply #7 - 04/05/06 at 03:29:05
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MNb wrote on 04/05/06 at 02:33:25:
Do you have analysis on 11...Ndxe5 ? After 12.f4 Bxe4 13.Nxe4 Qd5 14.Ng3 c4 White seems to have big problems.


I withdraw my original statement. I had originally based my defense of the position on 14.Nf2 Nxf2 15.Kxf2 but have just noticed that, instead of 15....Ng6 Black has a powerful piece sac in 15....Be7. If White takes with 16 fxe5 then I don't give much for his chances after 16...0-0. If he declines with 16.Kg1 then his position looks most unpleasant after 16...c4 17. fxe5 Bc5 18.h4 d3+ 19.Kh2 0-0.

Ah well, I'm sorry I ever doubted you   Smiley , and I count myself fortunate that my opponent didn't find this continuation.
  
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Reply #6 - 04/05/06 at 02:33:25
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Do you have analysis on 11...Ndxe5 ? After 12.f4 Bxe4 13.Nxe4 Qd5 14.Ng3 c4 White seems to have big problems.
  

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Re: Blumenfeld
Reply #5 - 04/04/06 at 08:09:53
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HgMan wrote on 03/26/06 at 15:11:27:
I was pretty sure that there was a thread on the Blumenfeld already, but I can't find it, so perhaps we could start a new one.


You'll find it in the "Daring Defenses" section.
  
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Reply #4 - 04/04/06 at 08:02:29
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MNb, I played a server game recently that followed your game with Kogeler until I varied with 11.Nfg5 Ngxe5 (11....Ndxe5 is better, but I think White is still OK after 12.f4) 12.f4 Ng6 13.Bc4 Bxe4 14.Nxe4 Be7 15.Qg4 Ndf8 16.0-0 Qb6 17.f5 h5 18.Qg3 exf5 19.Ng5 h4 20.Qf3 Rb8 21.Qxf5 1-0. Admittedly the game was played without the aid of an engine, but later analysis with my silicon friend makes me believe that White isn't lost here, although in the future I'll be attempting to prove an advantage with another line. What do you think of 11.Nfg5?
  
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