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Reply #33 - 07/14/18 at 03:06:54
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Giving this a bump to pair it with the other post I just made. It's nice to visit my stupidity from more than a decade ago, when we had two threads of analysis running concurrently...
  

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Reply #32 - 08/30/08 at 23:39:13
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Is there any way to collate these two threads?
  

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Reply #31 - 07/25/06 at 04:51:09
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Hi guys,

After getting Megabase 2006 yesterday, I noticed a totally new (to me!) way of playing the Blumenfeld when looking at some of Volokitin's games.  It looks very interesting to me, and I'm even starting to be tempted to play the Blumenfeld!  Have a look:



Dautov,R (2610) - Volokitin,A (2594) [E10]
Bundesliga 0304 Germany (13.1), 28.03.2004

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4 c5 4.d5 b5 5.Bg5 exd5 6.cxd5 d6 7.e4 a6 8.a4 Be7 9.Nbd2 Nxd5 10.Bxe7 Qxe7 11.axb5 0-0 12.Bc4 Nb4 13.0-0 Bb7 14.bxa6 N8xa6 15.Re1 Nc7 16.Ra3 Qf6 17.Qb3 Ne6 18.Qc3 Qxc3 19.Rxc3 d5 20.exd5 Bxd5 21.Bxd5 Nxd5 22.Ra3 ½-½



Kozul,Z (2640) - Volokitin,A (2652) [E10]
SLO-chT Celje (3), 30.11.2004

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4 c5 4.d5 b5 5.Bg5 exd5 6.cxd5 d6 7.e3 a6 8.a4 b4 9.Nbd2 Be7 10.Qb3 0-0 11.h3 Nh5 12.Bxe7 Qxe7 13.Bc4 a5 14.0-0 Nd7 15.Rfe1 Nb6 16.e4 Nf4 17.e5 Bb7 18.exd6 Qxd6 19.Ne4 Qh6 20.Nxc5 Nxc4 21.Nxb7 Qg6 22.g3 Qd3 23.Qxd3 Nxd3 24.Re4 Ncxb2 25.d6 Rfb8 26.Re7 Nc4 27.Nd4 Ra6 28.d7 Kf8 29.Re2 Raa8 30.d8Q+ Rxd8 31.Nxd8 Rxd8 32.Nb3 Nde5 33.Kg2 f6 34.f4 Nd3 35.Kf1 Rc8 36.Rd1 Nc5 37.Nxc5 Rxc5 38.Rd8+ Kf7 39.Rd7+ Kg6 40.Kf2 Nb6 41.Rb7 Nxa4 42.Ree7 Kf5 43.Rxg7 Ke4 44.Rge7+ Kd3 45.Rxh7 Nc3 46.h4 Kc2 47.h5 b3 48.h6 b2 49.Rhe7 Rh5 50.h7 f5 51.g4 fxg4 52.Kg3 a4 53.Kxg4 Rh2 54.f5 a3 55.f6 a2 56.Rxb2+ Kxb2 57.Rb7+ Kc2 58.Ra7 Rxh7 59.Rxa2+ Nxa2 60.Kg5 Nc3 61.Kg6 Rh4 62.f7 Rg4+ 63.Kh6 Rf4 64.Kg7 Ne4 65.f8Q Rxf8 66.Kxf8 ½-½



Avrukh,B (2652) - Volokitin,A (2671) [E10]
GRE-chT 34th Ermioni Argolidas (9), 11.07.2005

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 c5 4.d5 b5 5.Bg5 exd5 6.cxd5 d6 7.a4 b4 8.e4 Be7 9.Bb5+ Bd7 10.0-0 0-0 11.Re1 Bxb5 12.axb5 Nbd7 13.Nbd2 Nb6 14.Bf4 Qd7 15.Qe2 Nh5 16.Be3 f5 17.exf5 Qxf5 18.Bxc5 dxc5 19.Qxe7 Nf4 20.Qg5 Qxg5 21.Nxg5 Nd3 22.Re7 Nxd5 23.Rd7 N5f4 24.Nde4 c4 25.g3 h6 26.gxf4 hxg5 27.b3 Rxf4 28.b6 Rxe4 29.Raxa7 Rxa7 30.bxa7 Re8 31.Rb7 cxb3 32.Rb8 b2 33.Rxe8+ Kf7 34.a8Q b1Q+ 35.Kg2 Nf4+ 36.Kg3 Qg1+ 37.Kf3 Qd1+ 38.Kg3 Nh5+ 39.Kg2 Nf4+ 40.Kg3 Ne2+ 41.Kf3 Nf4+ ½-½

What do our resident Blumenfeld experts say about 5.Bg5 exd5 6.cxd5 d6?  A database search reveals that it hasn't scored well overall, but looking at the recent games of higher rated players makes it look playable, and more interesting than the queen trade that occurs after 5...Qa5+.
  
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Reply #30 - 06/20/06 at 12:01:50
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A Blumenfeld yesterday between two top players at the Aerosvit GM tournament in Foros.

Bologan,V (2666) - Nisipeanu,LD (2695) [E10]
Aerosvit GM Foros UKR (3), 19.06.2006

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 c5 4.d5 b5 5.dxe6 fxe6 6.cxb5 d5 7.g3 a6 8.bxa6 Bd6 9.Bg2 
0-0 10.0-0 Nc6 11.Bg5 Bxa6 12.Nc3 h6 13.Bxf6 Qxf6 14.Rc1 Kh8 15.b3 Rac8 16.a4 Rb8 17.Nb5 Bxb5 18.axb5 Rxb5 19.e4 Ne5 20.Ne1 Nc6 21.Nc2 Rxb3 22.exd5 Nb4 23.Nxb4 Rxb4 24.dxe6 Qxe6 25.Bd5 Qf6 26.Ba2 Rb2 27.Rc2 Be5 28.Bb1 g6 29.Qc1 Kg7 30.Rxb2 Bxb2 31.Qxc5 Bd4 32.Qc2 h5 33.h4 Rf7 34.Qe2 Qf3 35.Qxf3 Rxf3 36.Kg2 Rb3 37.f4 Rb2+ 38.Kh3 Bf2 39.Rd1 Re2 40.Rd7+ Kf6 41.Rd6+ Ke7 42.Rxg6 Bg1 43.g4 hxg4+ 44.Rxg4 Rh2+ 45.Kg3 Rb2 46.Be4 Rb3+ 47.Bf3 Be3 48.Rg5 Kf6 49.Ra5 Rb4 50.Ra6+ Kg7 51.f5 Bf4+ 52.Kg4 Bd6+ 53.Kh5 Be7 54.Rg6+ Kh7 55.Bg4 Rd4 56.f6 Bb4 57.Rg7+ Kh8 58.Ra7 Rd8 59.Be6 1-0

I'll have to sit down with the game, but it doesn't look like the opening is at fault in Nisipeanu's loss...
  

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Re: Blumenfeld
Reply #29 - 06/03/06 at 16:53:09
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The other line I've been looking at is:

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3 c5 4 d5 b5 5 Bg5 exd5 6 cxd5 d6!? 7 e4 a6 8 a4 Be7 9 Bxf6 Bxf6 10 axb5 Bxb2 11 Ra2 Bf6 12 Nbd2 0-0 13 Bd3 Bb7 14 0-0 axb5 15 Rxa8 Bxa8 16 Bxb5

Przewoznik claims White is better with a straightforward plan involving Nc4, Nfd2, f2-f4, and e4-e5, but easier said than done.  Take the following, blunt line as an example: 16 ... Nd7 17 Nc4 Nb6 18 Nfd2 Qc7 19 f4?! Bd4+ 20 Kh1 f5.  I like Black here.  Thoughts?

I'll want to make sure that 10 Qc2, preserving the tension isn't too dangerous, but this looks plausible for Black.  It's interesting that the B on f6 is so frequently such an important part of Black's position. An argument, I suppose, for playing the Benoni or Benko instead...
  

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Reply #28 - 06/02/06 at 03:26:18
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I prefer 6...Qa5+ 7.Nc3 Ne4 8.Bd2 Nxd2 9.Nfxd2 d6 10.e4 b4 11.Nc4 Qd8 like Browne-Ljubojevic, Buenos Aires 1979.
  

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Reply #27 - 06/01/06 at 21:25:05
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1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3 c5 4 d5 b5 5 Bg5 exd5 6 cxd5 h6 7 Bxf6 Qxf6 8 Qc2 d6 9 e4 a6 10 a4 b4 11 Nbd2

What is Black's best here?  Raetsky & Chetvenik suggest 11 ... Nd7 (they reason that 11 ... Bg4 is bad after 12 e5 dxe5 13 Ne4 Qf4 14 Nfd2 Bf5 15 Bd3 Bxe4 16 Nxe4 as in Chernin-Miles, Tunis 1985), but offer only 12 Bd3 in reply for White.  This move has been played twice: in their stem game, Van der Strict-Ikonnikov, Belgium 2001, and in Petrosian-Kholmov, Moscow, 1957, and Black won both games, but Przewoznik suggests that both 12 Be2 and 12 Nc4 provide White with a good game.   Huh

Maybe I should just back up, though.  How does Black respond to 5 Bg5 ?
  

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Reply #26 - 05/19/06 at 12:14:09
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Yes, that was my experience too. I felt a bit uncomfortable when studying, but in practice I had good results against those, who did not play x.d5. I always feared the day, meeting someone who knew what he was doing, avoiding the Benoni structures, but it did never happen ....
  

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Reply #25 - 05/19/06 at 05:07:47
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Ah, that's a pity.  Well, I'm going to try and pick MNb's brain about some of the critical lines, and I hope you won't hesitate to join in.  I won't try too hard to convert you though -- my experience with the benoni has been that after committing to Nf3, many (most?) players refrain from d5, so you should certainly wait until you're happy dealing with these deviations before jumping in.  At the same time, I score very well against these anti's with a variety of set-ups, so I don't complain too much.
  
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Reply #24 - 05/19/06 at 01:49:27
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Thanks, Scholar.

I must admit that these anti-Blumenfelds (?!) are dampening my appetite somewhat.  Short of MNb's line below (1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3 c5 4 e3 d5 5 Nc3 a6), I'm not seeing what I'd like here (I'd prefer a semi-Tarrasch with e3), and feel inclined to move toward the Queen's Indian as my complement to the Nimzo-Indian.  It's a shame: I'd like to be able to play the Blumenfeld, but not sure I want to cope with the alternatives.  Perhaps I'll have to give 2 ... c5 a bash every now and then...
  

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Reply #23 - 05/17/06 at 02:54:26
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I guess providing the moves would also have cleared things up, thanks MNb!

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1114504280/15 (at the moment, just a couple of notches below this thread) deals with some of these move orders and various replies for anti-benonis.

I'll try and return us to the Blumenfeld, but maybe it would make sense to consolidate these discussions in the 'other' Blumenfeld thread (http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1083864169;start=all)
especially since the opening seems to be assigned there.
  
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Reply #22 - 05/17/06 at 02:26:19
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As I have stated elsewhere, I find 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.e3 d5 5.Nc3 a6! most appealing. After 6.cxd5 (best) exd5 Black has a good version of the Tarrasch; after 6.Be2 and 6.Bd3 Black plays dxc4 and has the QGA with an extra tempo.
  

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Reply #21 - 05/16/06 at 11:18:44
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We're drifting rather rapidly away from the Blumenfeld altogether, but I guess it's useful to concern oneself with early alternatives.  What about 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3 c5 4 e3 ?
  

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Reply #20 - 05/16/06 at 02:33:54
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More specifically 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nf3 c5 5.g3 cxd4 6.Nxd4 and 3.Nf3 c5 4.Nc3 cxd4 5.Nxd4 Bb4 6.g3.
  

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Reply #19 - 05/16/06 at 02:27:12
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4.Nc3 cxd4 also has the possibility of a direct transposition into some of the early c5 nimzo lines.  Indeed, I think it looks pretty good for Black in either case, and maybe that transposition is best play from White.  But it might depend a bit on your nimzo repertoire, here.  I think that White's alternatives might have been mentioned elsewhere, perhaps in one of the anti-benoni threads.

(In case it is unclear, for the nimzo, I have in mind the lines where White plays an early g3 as the transpositional bridge.)
  
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Reply #18 - 05/15/06 at 19:16:34
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4.Nc3 cxd scores decently.
  

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Reply #17 - 05/15/06 at 17:50:20
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This does get tricky.  I had imagined making the Nimzo-Indian the main plank of my defense to 1 d4, but needed a response to 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3.  I may still opt for the Queen's Indian, but the Blumenfeld realy appeals.  But it does seem as though committing to 3 ... c5 means that Black should prepare not only 4 d5 b5, but also 4 Nc3 d5 and the Semi-Tarrasch.  For correspondence chess, this kind of preparation is less immediately onerous, as less memorization is required, but I'll have to think seriously about the compatibility of these various positions when it comes to middlegame ideas (it makes the QID seem more attractive, though I'm not sure I'm ready to give up on the Blumenfeld)...
  

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Reply #16 - 05/15/06 at 01:24:46
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1. Because of 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4.cxb5 e6 5.Nc3! exd5 6.Nxd5 Bb7 7.e4! Nxe4 8.Bc4!
Before the game I had prepared an "improvement", but later found, that White could refute it. So this road does not lead to Rome, alas.
Still maybe I was to hasty. Black can try 7...Nxd5 8.exd5 d6, though I don't really trust it.

2. Here you essentially do not contradict me: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 and Black has to play something else.

You're a bit unfair to say, that 8.e4 looks awful. It has been rather popular among much stronger players than I am. Moreover stronger players than me have been crushed after it, for instance because they played 10...Nxe5??
Alas 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 c5 3.Nc3 only avoids the Anti-Benoni, if Black is willing to play the Semi-Tarrasch (d5). I found it rather hard, to build a consistend repertoire with the Blumenfeld.
  

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Reply #15 - 05/14/06 at 16:07:11
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MNb wrote on 03/27/06 at 02:29:27:
Yes I have. NIC has published the following game with analysis in yearbook 66 or so:

Kögeler-MNb,
corr NBC H-428 (about 1998)

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4.cxb5 e6 5.dxe6 fxe6 6.Nf3 d5
This move order is not correct. Black only should play the Blumenfeld after White has played Nf3.

7.Nc3 Nbd7 8.e4?
One can find this recommendation in several older sources. But White is already lost.

8...d4 9.e5 Ng4 10.Ne4 Bb7
The goal of a gambit is not to grab back the pawn at the first occasion. I find it amazing, how many Black players have played Nxe5 and lost.

11.Bd3 c4 12.Nxd4 Bb4+
My refinement of Przewoznik's analysis.

13.Nc3 Qh4 14.Qd3 Nxe5 15.Bf1 o-o
The game is over. After 16.g3 Qh5 17.f3 Nxf3+ 18.Nxf3 Bxf3 19.Rg1 Qe5+ 20.Be2 Rad8 21.Qc2 Ne3 22.Bxe3 Qxe3 23.Rf1 Bg2 White resigned.

As I have switched to another active Black opening since then, I will be happy to share my ideas on the Blumenfeld.


MNb: Thanks again for sharing this game.  8 e4 looks awful and 12 ... Bb4+ is a nice move.

I was interested, though, in your comment after move 6 that Black should only enter into the Blumenfeld after Nf3, and that got me to thinking about a couple things:

1. Why?

2. It seems as though Black can enter into the Blumenfeld through either a Benoni approach (1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 c5 3 d5 b5 4 cxb5 e6) or through a Nimzo-QID (1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3 c5 4 d5 b5).  All roads eventually lead to Rome, I suppose, but is there any merit to one over the other?  It would appear that the Nimzo-QID would ensure that White plays Nf3 first.  Presumably, one needs to have the Nimzo ready in case 3 Nc3 is played, but it also seems to avoid the anti-Benoni lines.
  

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Reply #14 - 05/11/06 at 03:03:11
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The latter. For a couple of years I played the Dutch IZ only OTB, as I thought it too risky for corr. chess. The IZ better suits my style, not to mention all the White deviations from a NID/Blumenfeld repertoire.
  

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Reply #13 - 05/11/06 at 01:04:02
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I've now read in a couple of places NCO (Burgess) 1.d4 (Palliser) that "the Blumenfeld deserves to be more popular" -- I'll check later when I have a chance, but I think something very similar to that appears in both.  I was never sure whether that was an indication of surprise on the part of the author, or some sort of backhanded compliment (in case that phrase doesn't translate well: meaning that the Blumenfeld is not good, but worse opening are more popular).

I wonder, with HgMan, whether it would be worth learning, and I am finally on the verge of actually sitting down and figuring out whether it would be a reasonable choice.   As a result, I am a bit curious as to why MNb has given it up -- is it because of a particular critical variation, or simply in order to have a more generic response to d4 (and not have a Nf3/Nc3 split in one's repertoire)?
  
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Reply #12 - 05/10/06 at 18:55:11
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Well I'm retooling my repertoire for an important correspondence tournament that begins this summer, and thought I might try to put it in tandem with the Nimzo-Indian as my response to 1 d4.  I'm not so sure there's anything terribly wrong with it--is semi-respectable an objective evaluation or a response to fashion?--although it does look peculiarly schizophrenic (part Benoni, part Benko).

MNb: I have been meaning to reply to your post at the beginning of this thread for some time, but haven't yet found the time to sit down with the game.  I'll try to reply soon...
  

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Reply #11 - 05/10/06 at 14:36:20
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I think everyone has dabbled in the Blumenfeld at one time or another, it almost became semi-respectable one time.
  
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Reply #10 - 04/28/06 at 02:42:41
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6...d6 never had a good reputation. I wonder why Ward chose it. The fixed pawns on the black squares give White all the joy.
  

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Reply #9 - 04/17/06 at 10:56:51
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I agree that the Blumenfeld is synonomous with the Benoni, but isn't it usually covered here as a daring Defence? At any rate, enjoy Black's play in the great scrap: Tregubov-Ward, Reykjavik 2006.
  
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Reply #8 - 04/06/06 at 02:48:54
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Don't be sorry. Doubt is the mother of progress in opening theory.  Cheesy
  

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Reply #7 - 04/05/06 at 03:29:05
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MNb wrote on 04/05/06 at 02:33:25:
Do you have analysis on 11...Ndxe5 ? After 12.f4 Bxe4 13.Nxe4 Qd5 14.Ng3 c4 White seems to have big problems.


I withdraw my original statement. I had originally based my defense of the position on 14.Nf2 Nxf2 15.Kxf2 but have just noticed that, instead of 15....Ng6 Black has a powerful piece sac in 15....Be7. If White takes with 16 fxe5 then I don't give much for his chances after 16...0-0. If he declines with 16.Kg1 then his position looks most unpleasant after 16...c4 17. fxe5 Bc5 18.h4 d3+ 19.Kh2 0-0.

Ah well, I'm sorry I ever doubted you   Smiley , and I count myself fortunate that my opponent didn't find this continuation.
  
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Reply #6 - 04/05/06 at 02:33:25
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Do you have analysis on 11...Ndxe5 ? After 12.f4 Bxe4 13.Nxe4 Qd5 14.Ng3 c4 White seems to have big problems.
  

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Reply #5 - 04/04/06 at 08:09:53
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HgMan wrote on 03/26/06 at 15:11:27:
I was pretty sure that there was a thread on the Blumenfeld already, but I can't find it, so perhaps we could start a new one.


You'll find it in the "Daring Defenses" section.
  
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Reply #4 - 04/04/06 at 08:02:29
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MNb, I played a server game recently that followed your game with Kogeler until I varied with 11.Nfg5 Ngxe5 (11....Ndxe5 is better, but I think White is still OK after 12.f4) 12.f4 Ng6 13.Bc4 Bxe4 14.Nxe4 Be7 15.Qg4 Ndf8 16.0-0 Qb6 17.f5 h5 18.Qg3 exf5 19.Ng5 h4 20.Qf3 Rb8 21.Qxf5 1-0. Admittedly the game was played without the aid of an engine, but later analysis with my silicon friend makes me believe that White isn't lost here, although in the future I'll be attempting to prove an advantage with another line. What do you think of 11.Nfg5?
  
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Reply #3 - 04/04/06 at 01:51:12
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Typo. Please read 14.Qd2 instead of 14.Qd3.
  

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Reply #2 - 04/03/06 at 19:44:47
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The Blumenfeld seems to be an interesting opening and a more ambitious try for black than the QI. I will probably try it out.  Is there a problem with your notation? Bd3 and Qd3 do not go well together.
  

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Re: Blumenfeld
Reply #1 - 03/27/06 at 02:29:27
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Yes I have. NIC has published the following game with analysis in yearbook 66 or so:

Kögeler-MNb,
corr NBC H-428 (about 1998)

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4.cxb5 e6 5.dxe6 fxe6 6.Nf3 d5
This move order is not correct. Black only should play the Blumenfeld after White has played Nf3.

7.Nc3 Nbd7 8.e4?
One can find this recommendation in several older sources. But White is already lost.

8...d4 9.e5 Ng4 10.Ne4 Bb7
The goal of a gambit is not to grab back the pawn at the first occasion. I find it amazing, how many Black players have played Nxe5 and lost.

11.Bd3 c4 12.Nxd4 Bb4+
My refinement of Przewoznik's analysis.

13.Nc3 Qh4 14.Qd3 Nxe5 15.Bf1 o-o
The game is over. After 16.g3 Qh5 17.f3 Nxf3+ 18.Nxf3 Bxf3 19.Rg1 Qe5+ 20.Be2 Rad8 21.Qc2 Ne3 22.Bxe3 Qxe3 23.Rf1 Bg2 White resigned.

As I have switched to another active Black opening since then, I will be happy to share my ideas on the Blumenfeld.
  

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03/26/06 at 15:11:27
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I was pretty sure that there was a thread on the Blumenfeld already, but I can't find it, so perhaps we could start a new one.  I remember buying a small Trends volume on the Blumenfeld many years ago, and having fun bashing through the games, but I never really studied the opening.   

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3 c5 4 d5 b5

It appears that there are three replies:

5 cxb5
5 dxe6
5 Bg5


The first (5 cxb5) is uncommon and not terribly good:

5 ... exd5 6.Bg5 Bb7 7.e3 d6 8.Be2 Nbd7 9.0-0 h6

The second (5 dxe6) is better as it can leaves Black vulnerable at e6 and f7.

The third (5 Bg5) is the most common, but here the game can reach some intriguing and complicated positions.

Has anyone had any experience playing the Blumenfeld?
  

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