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Re: Offbeat Pirc Austrian
Reply #7 - 05/11/07 at 13:17:18
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Many thanks for your comments! That is probably that for this rather whimsical thought of mine ...
  
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Reply #6 - 05/11/07 at 10:33:55
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[quote author=Michael Ayton link=1178063800/0#0 date=1178063798]Can anyone provide some info on the following lines? --

1 e4 d6 2 d4 Nf6 3 Nc3 g6 4 f4 and:

(1) 4 ...c6 (5 Nf3 Bg4!?, when in the recent game Berg--Hillarp Persson Black came out with the TN 6 Be2 e6!? ...)
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Emanuel mentioned in his tournament report that he should've played 15.Nxd4! 'with at least an edge', instead of the defensive Bxd4?.
  
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Re: Offbeat Pirc Austrian
Reply #5 - 05/11/07 at 09:34:59
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I don't like ...c6 against the Austrian, which tends to invite e5 without preparing counterplay against d4. The only exception I can think of is 4 f4 Bg7 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Be3 c6, when e5 is met by ...Ng4 hitting the bishop, though even here White can just play h3 if worried. After 4 f4 c6 I propose White borrow an idea from the 150 Attack: 5 Qf3!? If 5...b5 6 a3!? Qb6 7 e5 - e5 is coming anyway, one way or another.
  
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Re: Offbeat Pirc Austrian
Reply #4 - 05/03/07 at 15:30:24
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Well, 62 examples of 4 ...c5, and 40 of 5 ...Qa5, on ChessLive ... One of the culprits is Ufimtsev!
  
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Re: Offbeat Pirc Austrian
Reply #3 - 05/02/07 at 15:27:41
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[quote author=Michael Ayton link=1178063800/0#2 date=1178096579]Isn't 7 Qd5! just a complete and clean killer? -- it's amazing this nonsense has been played so often![/quote]

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This has really been played often?  Just when I think nothing can surprise me any more ...
  
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Re: Offbeat Pirc Austrian
Reply #2 - 05/02/07 at 09:02:59
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Isn't 7 Qd5! just a complete and clean killer? -- it's amazing this nonsense has been played so often! Can't say I fancy (2) much, either, whether with 5 ...Nc6 or 5 ...d5. But (1) looks of some interest, with Gurgenidze intentions. Maybe MNb has some info on this?
  
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Re: Offbeat Pirc Austrian
Reply #1 - 05/02/07 at 02:15:20
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Indeed, I would think that (3) is refuted by 5. dc Qa5 6. cd Nxe4 7. Qd4.
  
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05/01/07 at 23:56:38
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Can anyone provide some info on the following lines? --

1 e4 d6 2 d4 Nf6 3 Nc3 g6 4 f4 and:

(1) 4 ...c6 (5 Nf3 Bg4!?, when in the recent game Berg--Hillarp Persson Black came out with the TN 6 Be2 e6!? ...)

(2) 4 ...Bg4 (5 Nf3 c6 leading to (1), or else 5 ...Nc6!?)

(3) 4 ...c5 (5 dc Qa5 -- but this looks like a bridge too far!)
  
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