Latest Updates:
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 
Topic Tools
Hot Topic (More than 10 Replies) 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bf5 (Read 10359 times)
ErictheRed
God Member
*****
Offline


USCF National Master

Posts: 2533
Location: USA
Joined: 10/02/05
Re: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bf5
Reply #5 - 08/22/07 at 14:21:36
Post Tools
I think this is exactly what you're looking for:

http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_true_combat/041001_true_combat_beating_weaker_...

At a couple of places I'd prefer other tries for White than Taylor shows (particularly after 5...Nxd5), but this article basically shows why 4...Bf5 is considered virtually refuted.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Dji
Full Member
***
Offline


Just a Spirit in this
material World

Posts: 169
Joined: 07/16/06
Re: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bf5
Reply #4 - 08/22/07 at 12:58:29
Post Tools
Some year's ago I 've studied this variation and i'm agree that after 5.cd5 lead to unclear variations
and i think that this variation is not so bad and white have to play precise moves to maintain the advantage but at the end white gain a clear plus after 5.Qb3

Another game this time with the great  Akiba!

[Event "Merano"]
[Site "Merano"]
[Date "1924.??.??"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Rubinstein, Akiba"]
[Black "Koltanowski, George"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D15"]
[PlyCount "61"]
[EventDate "1924.??.??"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1998.11.10"]

1. d4 c6 2. c4 d5 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 Bf5 5. Qb3 b6 6. cxd5 Nxd5 7. e4 Nxc3 8.
exf5 Nd5 9. Bd3 g6 10. O-O Bg7 11. Bg5 O-O 12. Rac1 Qd6 13. Rfe1 Nd7 14. fxg6
hxg6 15. Ba6 Rab8 16. Bh4 Bh6 17. Bg3 Bf4 18. Bxf4 Nxf4 19. Ne5 Nxe5 20. dxe5
Qd2 21. Bc4 e6 22. Rcd1 Qa5 23. Re4 Nh5 24. Bxe6 Ng7 25. Bc4 b5 26. Bf1 Rfd8
27. Rc1 Qb6 28. e6 Rd5 29. exf7+ Kxf7 30. Rf4+ Kg8 31. Rf6 1-0

In the game Léotard - Stull  6.c5 if Qc7 there is the thematic 7.Bf4! with initiative


  

Eternity it's very long especially towards the end!
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
player2006
Junior Member
**
Offline


I Love ChessPublishing!

Posts: 66
Joined: 07/06/06
Re: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bf5
Reply #3 - 08/22/07 at 12:14:51
Post Tools
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Dji
Full Member
***
Offline


Just a Spirit in this
material World

Posts: 169
Joined: 07/16/06
Re: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bf5
Reply #2 - 08/22/07 at 11:12:02
Post Tools
[Event "Wch19 Final"]
[Site "corr ICCF"]
[Date "2004.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Leotard, Christophe (FRA)"]
[Black "Stull, Norbert (LUX)"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D11"]
[WhiteElo "2655"]
[BlackElo "2602"]
[PlyCount "75"]
[EventDate "2004.??.??"]
[Source "Chess Mail Ltd."]
[SourceDate "2006.09.08"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 Bf5 3. c4 e6 4. Nc3 c6 5. Qb3! the best Qb6 6. c5 Qxb3 7. axb3 Nf6 8. Bf4
Na6 9. Rxa6!!!N    a world champion's move   ..bxa610. e3 Nh5 11. Bc7 Be4 12. Nxe4 dxe4 13. Nd2 Nf6 14. Bxa6 Nd515. Bg3 Nb4 16. Bc4 a5 17. Ke2 Be7 18. Nxe4 Kd7 19. Ra1 g5 20. Be5 Rhf8 21. Nc3
Bd8 22. g4 Bc7 23. Bxc7 Kxc7 24. Ne4 h6 25. h4 gxh4 26. Rh1 Kd7 27. Rxh4 Rh8
28. Nd6 Ke7 29. f4 Nd5 30. Kf3 Nf6 31. e4 h5 32. g5 Ne8 33. Nxe8 Raxe8 34. f5
Rc8 35. f6+ Kd7 36. Kf4 Rb8 37. d5 cxd5 38. exd5 1-0

  

Eternity it's very long especially towards the end!
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
alumbrado
God Member
*****
Offline


Esse quam videri bonus
malebo

Posts: 1418
Location: London
Joined: 02/17/03
Gender: Male
Re: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bf5
Reply #1 - 08/22/07 at 10:52:58
Post Tools
player2006 wrote on 08/22/07 at 09:33:05:
Do you know of web-articles on the line:
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bf5


No - but let's create one ...  Cool

The usual problem with the early development of Black's bishop is Qb3 either before or after an exchange of pawns on d5.  Is that not the case here, too?
  

If sometimes we fly too close to the sun, at least this shows we are spreading our wings.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
player2006
Junior Member
**
Offline


I Love ChessPublishing!

Posts: 66
Joined: 07/06/06
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bf5
08/22/07 at 09:33:05
Post Tools
Do you know of web-articles on the line:
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bf5
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 
Topic Tools
Bookmarks: del.icio.us Digg Facebook Google Google+ Linked in reddit StumbleUpon Twitter Yahoo