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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: Alekhine ´s line against modern Reply #7 - 09/07/07 at 12:36:08	Post Tools	Print Post
	lg wrote on 09/07/07 at 11:52:42: I was referring to Adams-Nakamura (candidates) where Nakamura needed to win (I believe he tried 4...Nc6 to try to outplay is opponent but Adams made it simpler by transposing to the exchange. The game was a draw with White better (a draw was suffcient for Adams) It's interesting that Nakamura was willing to endure Rubinstein's 5. c4 Nb6 6. e6! gambit, and not very surprising that Adams eschewed it. I heard a reliable report that at the US Open, Nakamura was pretty soft on 16-year-old Virginia WFM Ettie Nikolova, which perhaps explains his poor result. Venus is much more powerful than Caissa, it would seem, at least among those of a certain age.

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lg God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 606 Location: Lisbon Joined: 04/18/05 Gender:	Re: Alekhine ´s line against modern Reply #6 - 09/07/07 at 11:52:42	Post Tools	Print Post
	I was referring to Adams-Nakamura (candidates) where Nakamura needed to win (I believe he tried 4...Nc6 to try to outplay is opponent but Adams made it simpler by transposing to the exchange. The game was a draw with White better (a draw was suffcient for Adams)


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TopNotch God Member Offline I only look 1 move ahead, but its always the best Posts: 2211 Joined: 01/04/03 Gender:	Re: Alekhine ´s line against modern Reply #5 - 09/06/07 at 01:41:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: ...and lost... (!?) LOL....I remember that Adams - Baburin game. Baburin also has a nemesis in Luke McShane, back when he should have been beating him. Some say the Alekhine exchange variation with 5...exd6 is in reality just a bad Petroff for Black, i.e. The misplaced Knight on b6 should be on f6. Toppy

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Viking God Member Offline Posts: 673 Location: Norway Joined: 10/12/04 Gender:	Re: Alekhine ´s line against modern Reply #4 - 09/05/07 at 18:45:56	Post Tools	Print Post
	...and lost... (!?)


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lg God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 606 Location: Lisbon Joined: 04/18/05 Gender:	Re: Alekhine ´s line against modern Reply #3 - 09/05/07 at 15:19:38	Post Tools	Print Post
	well, you might, as well, consider 4 ... Bg4 5 Be2 Nc6 with the idea 6 O-O PxP 7 NxP NxN! which has been suggested in a few books and is quite playable to me The Miles and Kengis look as being more of the type Anti-Alekhine since the type of play resembles other defences like the Scandinavian or the CK (but in that case why not play them from the beginning ?) I also think that 4...g6 is not as bad as they say It will be nice to have a forum of suggestions on i) crazy, ii) less used, iii) apparently weak but which may not bad that weak iv) others to be played after 4. Nf3 By the way, I agree with Markovich and would skip 4... Nc6 from this discussion since we may get into an exchange variation (although Baburin seems to like an early Nc6 on the exchange after exd) I remember a well know n critical game by Adams (White) where he played just this


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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: Alekhine ´s line against modern Reply #2 - 09/05/07 at 11:37:19	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: Its the other way around isnt it? "Modern line against the alekhine"... 4.Nf3 for sure is a good move (and nothing more) but it wont scare me away from the alekhine. I think the most solid way is to play the modern;) way: 4..dxe5 and Kengis (5..g6) or Miles (5..c6) I would agree that those are among the most solid ways of playing it, but if you play that way you are really playing something rather similar to a Scandinavian, which perhaps isn't to everyone's taste. The old 4...Bg4, followed usually by 4...c6, appears to be the choice of the very few current GM Alekhine practitioners, notably Baburin and, on occasion, Krasenkow. Lately I've been putting together an extensive set of notes on Alekhine's, and I think this latter system, named for Salo Flohr, is playable. In all honesty, I think that in this and in all Black's ways of dealing with the Modern (and possibly in the Four Pawns Attack as well, for that matter) Black fails to equalize if White plays well. But I think, at least in the Flohr, Kengis and Miles variations, he can at worst obtain good chances to draw. One line of particular interest, not considered in the books, is 4...Bg4 5.Be2 c6 7.0-0 Bxf3 8.Bxf3 dxe5 9.dxe5 e6 10.Re1 Nd7 11.Nd2 Qc7 12.Nc4 Be7!? (theory considers 12...Nbd6 13.Qd4 Nxc4 15.Qxc4 and soon ...0-0-0, with pawn assaults on opposite flanks; the text is much more conservative) 13. Nd6+ Kf8. I have an analysis from here which I won't bother to share. While the knight's early appearance on d6 is impressive, I'm not sure that White can sustain it or prove advantage. I've had this twice against reasonably strong opponents and each has failed to demonstrate any advantage for White. Somewhere on my project list is to analyze 4...Nc6, but one thing disuading me is that 5. exd6 pretty well compels 5...exd6, when Black's early ...Nc6 is suboptimal. The other thing, of course, is that I doubt the soundness of Black's position after 5. c4 Nb6 6. e6.

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Viking God Member Offline Posts: 673 Location: Norway Joined: 10/12/04 Gender:	Re: Alekhine ´s line against modern Reply #1 - 09/03/07 at 06:06:58	Post Tools	Print Post
	Its the other way around isnt it? "Modern line against the alekhine"... 4.Nf3 for sure is a good move (and nothing more) but it wont scare me away from the alekhine. I think the most solid way is to play the modern;) way: 4..dxe5 and Kengis (5..g6) or Miles (5..c6)


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peon4rey YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 39 Joined: 05/24/06	Alekhine ´s line against modern 09/03/07 at 04:02:18	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hi, i ´ve been playing the alekhine for 6 months with good results (for black). Now, im studing it for a tournament but i read that in the line e4 Nf6 e5 Nd5 d4 d6 Nf3... black is almost lost in all the lines. Is it true? What is the best option? Is Bg4 a good and viable option? Thanks...


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