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Re: Strong Novelty-Sideline in Pirc for black
Reply #5 - 01/11/08 at 21:12:53
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If Black wants to play like this it should be 1.e4 d6 2.d4 g6 3.Nc3 c6 4.f4 d5 5.e5 h5 as the bishop on f8 might be better than on g7. The knight certainly is better on g8 than on h5.
Of course White can deviate on move 3.
  

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Re: Strong Novelty-Sideline in Pirc for black
Reply #4 - 01/03/08 at 20:40:43
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chessboxer wrote on 01/02/08 at 07:03:56:
1.e4 d6 2.d4 nf6 3.nc3 g6 4. f4 d5!

If e5.. Nh5
g4 Ng7 black continues play with h5.

Deep shredder 11 assesses the position as satisfactory for black(+.28)


It would be nice if IM watson can analyze this.



Playing it with the ...Nh5 idea is the same as a variation of the North Sea Defence (1.e4 g6 2.de4 Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.e5 Nh5) with White having the extra move f4, which has it's advantages and disadvantages.  This might be playable for Black but White does get an awful lot of space on the kingside.  1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 d5 5.g4 (although I'm hardly sure this is the best move) 5...Ng7 6.Bg2 looks better for White to me.
  
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Re: Strong Novelty-Sideline in Pirc for black
Reply #3 - 01/03/08 at 19:06:51
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Not strong and not a novelty.

Khalifman dismisses it briefly in Book 4 of his Anand series, "... Black loses too much time ... no compensation for White's space advantage..." and quotes Huber-Grumic 1999 which went 5. e5 Ng8 6. Bd3.

It seems like an inferior Gurgenidze, a variation which itself is gasping for life.

There is one other game in Megabase, from a freestyle tournament in 2006 (i.e. computer Engines involved). It went 5. e5 Ne4, and Black eventually lost the e pawn and still sufferred from the problems quoted by Khalifman.

I really hope IM Watson doesn't spend any time on this one.
  

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Re: Strong Novelty-Sideline in Pirc for black
Reply #2 - 01/03/08 at 16:25:19
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It's not the accelerated Gurg, and I dare say it's just better for White.
  
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Re: Strong Novelty-Sideline in Pirc for black
Reply #1 - 01/03/08 at 16:04:40
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The accelerated gurgenidze a novelty ???
  
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Strong Novelty-Sideline in Pirc for black
01/02/08 at 07:03:56
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1.e4 d6 2.d4 nf6 3.nc3 g6 4. f4 d5!

If e5.. Nh5
g4 Ng7 black continues play with h5.

Deep shredder 11 assesses the position as satisfactory for black(+.28)


It would be nice if IM watson can analyze this.

  
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