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Re: 7...Na6!? or 7...Na6?! in classical.
Reply #9 - 03/28/09 at 09:33:33
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GMGolubev wrote on 03/27/09 at 23:44:45:
miamisharks wrote on 03/25/09 at 06:39:15:
Since your book is being discussed, let me just say that I have used it extensively for Classical lines and it is instructive, entertaining, and simply a pleasure to read.


Many thanks. People play the Classical with White very often, so I have a large experience with Black there. (Also played it a bit as White). When one faces, say, 5.Nge2 or 5.f4 or 5.g3 once in a few years, it is more difficult to be instructive. Smiley

I have exactly the same opinion. Really helped to play and love the King's Indian.
  
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Reply #8 - 03/27/09 at 23:52:41
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I had a query regarding the 7...Na6 variation: is 7...Na6 8.Be3 Ng4 9.Bg5 f6 currently equivalent to 9...Qe8? I am aware of the 10.Bc1 c6 11.h3 Nh6 12.c5! idea for White, but I'm wondering if this is a real concern for Black, or whether he has any good alternatives. In the Svidler-Navara game from Sochi last year, White was slightly better out of the opening.
  
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Re: 7...Na6!? or 7...Na6?! in classical.
Reply #7 - 03/27/09 at 23:44:45
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miamisharks wrote on 03/25/09 at 06:39:15:
Since your book is being discussed, let me just say that I have used it extensively for Classical lines and it is instructive, entertaining, and simply a pleasure to read.


Many thanks. People play the Classical with White very often, so I have a large experience with Black there. (Also played it a bit as White). When one faces, say, 5.Nge2 or 5.f4 or 5.g3 once in a few years, it is more difficult to be instructive. Smiley
  
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Re: 7...Na6!? or 7...Na6?! in classical.
Reply #6 - 03/25/09 at 06:39:15
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Since your book is being discussed, let me just say that I have used it extensively for Classical lines and it is instructive, entertaining, and simply a pleasure to read.
  
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Re: 7...Na6!? or 7...Na6?! in classical.
Reply #5 - 03/24/09 at 22:19:03
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Zatox wrote on 03/18/09 at 10:32:47:
Hello there, I'm currently working very hard on my repetoire. And I'm thinking about playing 7...Na6 in the classical KI. I have Golubev's book about the KID, but it doesn't say anything about it. Sad. Jeroen Noomen rybka book gives all lines where white play 8.Be3 (or 8.Re1) a huge advantage for white.


In fact, 7.0-0 Na6 8.Be3 is covered in my book, see 7.Be3 Na6 8. 0-0.

I put 7.0-0 without 7...Nc6 and 7.Be3 in the same chapter, and anyway people cannot find things. Smiley
 
Regarding the 8...c6 9.dxe5 there is not much though. Can it be so hard for Black? I shall look at this again at some point.

7.0-0 Na6 8.Re1 is not covered, that is true.


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Re: 7...Na6!? or 7...Na6?! in classical.
Reply #4 - 03/22/09 at 01:41:13
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Hello, I always wondered what the appeal of 7... Na6 is. Any half-decent White player who plays solidly, and knows some theory has hardly any risk of losing. I don't think that White necessarily has to go for the crazy 10. c5 stuff to claim an edge. For specifics I think the brief solution in Markos book is quite enough for most club players.

If Black wants to avoid 7...Nc6 then 7... Nbd7 (Dangerous Weapons) is more interesting, and underrated by more White players too.
  
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Re: 7...Na6!? or 7...Na6?! in classical.
Reply #3 - 03/19/09 at 05:14:18
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Zatox wrote on 03/18/09 at 10:32:47:
Hello there, I'm currently working very hard on my repetoire. And I'm thinking about playing 7...Na6 in the classical KI. I have Golubev's book about the KID, but it doesn't say anything about it. Sad.


Well, maybe Golubev's book doesn't go into extreme detail in the 7...Na6 lines, but if you look carefully at his chapter 3 it's there, and quite a useful overview of theory as it then stood.

Probably the single best source on 7...Na6 anywhere is... ChessPublishing King's Indian section, with coverage by GMs Gallagher, Mikhalevski and now Golubev! Both the previous hosts followed this line closely and the details are still in the archives.
  
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Re: 7...Na6!? or 7...Na6?! in classical.
Reply #2 - 03/18/09 at 16:33:37
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Is 8...c6 refuted? Does black have better tries?

I dont know if 8...c6 is refuted - but 8...Ng4 is still alive  Wink
  
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Re: 7...Na6!? or 7...Na6?! in classical.
Reply #1 - 03/18/09 at 16:18:43
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7..Na6 has been discussed before and seems to be a very playable line. See among others the following two  threads:

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1222044765
http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1102984524
  
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7...Na6!? or 7...Na6?! in classical.
03/18/09 at 10:32:47
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Hello there, I'm currently working very hard on my repetoire. And I'm thinking about playing 7...Na6 in the classical KI. I have Golubev's book about the KID, but it doesn't say anything about it. Sad. Jeroen Noomen rybka book gives all lines where white play 8.Be3 (or 8.Re1) a huge advantage for white. Does black have any way to equalise in such variations?
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1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.0-0 Na6 8.Be3
and now:

8...c6 9.dxe5 dxe5 10.Qxd8 Rxd8 11. Rfd1 Re8 12.c5 with a pleasant position for white

or
8...c6 9.dxe5 dxe5 10.Nxe5 

Is 8...c6 refuted? Does black have better tries?
  
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