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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #10 - 03/04/10 at 00:35:54
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 03/03/10 at 23:14:36:
Siebenhaar / Delnef / Ottstadt: Die Aljechin-Verteidigung
vol. 1, 525 pp., 1986, covered the 4PA, the Chase Variation and much else
vol. 2, 672 pp., 1989, on the Modern Variation and Exchange Variation.


I have both of them on my shelf but wasn't aware of the second edition of volume 1.
  
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Siebenhaar / Delnef / Ottstadt: Die Aljechin-Verteidigung
vol. 1, 525 pp., 1986, covered the 4PA, the Chase Variation and much else
vol. 2, 672 pp., 1989, on the Modern Variation and Exchange Variation.

And then, in 1995, Erich Siebenhaar wrote (alone) the first volume of the second edition, only covering the 4PA: 296 pp.
As far as I know, no other volume of the 2nd edition has appeared.
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
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I think that the book on the 4PA is by
Siebenhaar alone

The issue on the Modern and exchange variations is by the three authors
  
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lg wrote on 03/03/10 at 17:40:51:
If you can find a copy, get the book by Siebenhar (I am not sure the spelling is correct).


Siebenhaar, Delnef and Ottstadt. It's fantastic; more than 200 pages on 5.f4. It's only objection is that it is from 1986 (OK, for some people it is an objection that it is written in German).
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
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If you can find a copy, get the book by Siebenhar (I am not sure the spelling is correct).

It contains a LOT of material on this variation.

Then, as Markovich suggests look at the updates and forum analysis and you will be Ok to choose "your" variation.

I agree with MarkG. It is easy to pick up and analyse, and play a variation for Black rather then choosing a variation for White since, in my opinion, Black has several good choices, and not so good chooices but
which may not be easily refuted in a an unprepared game.
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
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Markovich wrote on 03/03/10 at 14:00:45:
I would not touch the White side of that unless I had an excellent memory, since Black has many ways to introduce dangerous complications, and there are other, theoretically better antidotes to Alekhine's.  Not only that, but this defense is encountered only rarely.  But if you were up against an Alekhine's player in a match or regularly in your locality, playing the 4PA might make more sense.


This is true even at the highest levels. Last year Grischuk played the 4 Pawns against Svidler at the World Rapid cup, forgot the theory and went under very easily. Notably, he switched to 4.Nf3 for that great game against Riazantsev in the Russian Super Final.
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
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Conquistador wrote on 03/02/10 at 04:26:53:
Where can I find material on the four pawns attack in the Alekhine's Defense?


The updates here are very good.  Also if you look back, you'll find that extensive analyses have been posted in the forum.  Bogdanov's book isn't bad.   Bagirov's book is too old to make a good 4PA source, imho, though it would serve to build a good foundation of basic info.

I would not touch the White side of that unless I had an excellent memory, since Black has many ways to introduce dangerous complications, and there are other, theoretically better antidotes to Alekhine's.  Not only that, but this defense is encountered only rarely.  But if you were up against an Alekhine's player in a match or regularly in your locality, playing the 4PA might make more sense.
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #3 - 03/03/10 at 06:35:48
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Bagirov's book is the one you should look at for a first contact.
If you are looking for games, you can have a look at this: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?node=737763
  
Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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Actually I was looking for a fancy coffee cup Smiley

I was looking for games and theory to study unless there is an excellent book I can investigate.
  
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Which sort of material: games, books, theory, T-shirts, other stuff?  Wink
  
Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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Where can I find material on the four pawns attack in the Alekhine's Defense?
  
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