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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #40 - 12/31/12 at 07:31:23
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Markovich wrote on 12/30/12 at 20:13:32:
Nice website, brabo. Reminds me of Hard Chess.

I was following Hard Chess in those early days of the internet. Pity that you gave it up as it was really interesting.
  
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Reply #39 - 12/30/12 at 20:13:32
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Nice website, brabo. Reminds me of Hard Chess.
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #38 - 12/27/12 at 17:10:15
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lg wrote on 03/25/11 at 20:07:08:
it might be the case that 5...g6 as suggested by Taylor may catch up. Here is one game in the recent Euro championship by a player with more than 2600 ELO (and previous WC)

[Event "12th ch-EUR"]
[Site "Aix-les-Bains FRA"]
[Date "2011.03.22"]
[Round "1.54"]
[White "Denisov, Ivan"]
[Black "Khalifman, Alexander"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B03"]
[WhiteElo "2300"]
[BlackElo "2637"]
[PlyCount "58"]
[EventDate "2011.03.22"]

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. c4 Nb6 4. d4 d6 5. f4 g6 6. Nc3 Bg7 7. Be3 Be6 8. d5 Bc8
9. Nf3 O-O 10. Bd3 e6 11. O-O Na6 12. Be2 exd5 13. cxd5 Bg4 14. Bd4 Nb4 15. Qb3
c5 16. dxc6 Nxc6 17. Bxb6 Qxb6+ 18. Qxb6 axb6 19. exd6 Rfd8 20. Rfd1 Bf8 21. h3
Bxf3 22. Bxf3 Bxd6 23. g3 Bc5+ 24. Kg2 Bd4 25. a3 Bxc3 26. bxc3 Kf8 27. Kf2
Rxd1 28. Bxd1 Rd8 29. Be2 Na5 1/2-1/2


Concerning the Sergeevvariant, I recently published a study of it on my blog: http://schaken-brabo.blogspot.ru/2012/12/aljechin-met-g6.html

Some other articles about the Aljechin on my blog:
http://schaken-brabo.blogspot.ru/2012/11/partijpublicaties.html
http://schaken-brabo.blogspot.ru/2012/07/een-minithematornooi.html
http://schaken-brabo.blogspot.ru/2012/06/aljechin-met-g5.html
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #37 - 05/10/11 at 23:38:13
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Well I had a game I lost recently that ran deep into the theory.  I think white may be in a bit of trouble here.

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.c4 Nb6 5.f4 dxe5 6.fxe5 Nc6 7.Be3 Bf5 8.Nc3 e6 9.Nf3 Be7 10.d5 exd5 11.cxd5 Nb4 12.Nd4 Bd7 13.e6 fxe6 14.dxe6 Bc6 15.Qg4 Bh4+ 16.g3 Bxh1 17.0-0-0 0-0 18.gxh4 Qf6 19.Be2 Bd5 20.Rg1 Qe5 21.Bh6 g6 22.h5 Rf6 23.Bg5 Rf2 24.hxg6 h6! and my attack ran out of steam.

I ended up playing 25.Bxh6? trying to minimize the damage, but black's counterattack crushed me quickly.
Further review showed that I could have tried 25.Qh4 and I would still be on the board.  But that is not what I am aiming for out of this variation, especially after 25...Rxh2 26.Qf4.

Surely there is another way for white?
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #36 - 03/25/11 at 20:07:08
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it might be the case that 5...g6 as suggested by Taylor may catch up. Here is one game in the recent Euro championship by a player with more than 2600 ELO (and previous WC)

[Event "12th ch-EUR"]
[Site "Aix-les-Bains FRA"]
[Date "2011.03.22"]
[Round "1.54"]
[White "Denisov, Ivan"]
[Black "Khalifman, Alexander"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B03"]
[WhiteElo "2300"]
[BlackElo "2637"]
[PlyCount "58"]
[EventDate "2011.03.22"]

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. c4 Nb6 4. d4 d6 5. f4 g6 6. Nc3 Bg7 7. Be3 Be6 8. d5 Bc8
9. Nf3 O-O 10. Bd3 e6 11. O-O Na6 12. Be2 exd5 13. cxd5 Bg4 14. Bd4 Nb4 15. Qb3
c5 16. dxc6 Nxc6 17. Bxb6 Qxb6+ 18. Qxb6 axb6 19. exd6 Rfd8 20. Rfd1 Bf8 21. h3
Bxf3 22. Bxf3 Bxd6 23. g3 Bc5+ 24. Kg2 Bd4 25. a3 Bxc3 26. bxc3 Kf8 27. Kf2
Rxd1 28. Bxd1 Rd8 29. Be2 Na5 1/2-1/2
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #35 - 03/23/11 at 03:49:31
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Reply to  # 33 by Ig.
I do apologize to anyone who was misled to believe that the traditional main line of the Four Pawns Attack involved a thematic bishop development move to f4 or c4. My bishop development comments refer specifically to some interesting side lines of the Four Pawns Attack as shown in the following lines, which were also discussed in detail in the Alekhine book by Taylor.

1.e4 Nf6  2.e5 Nd5  3.d4 d6  4.c4 Nb6  5.f4

a) 5….dxe5  6.fxe5 c5  7.d5
a1) 7….e6  8.Nc3 exd5  9.cxd5 c4 10.d6! Nc6  11.Bf4  g5  12.Ne4 (white’s last move is very strong) gxf4  13.Nf6+  Qxf6  14.exf6  Be6  etc
a2) 7…. g6  8.Bf4  Bg7  9.Nc3  O-O  10.Qd2 e6  etc.

b) 5… g5  6. Nc3 Bg7  7.Nf3 gxf4 (g4)  8.Bxf4 Bg4  9.c5!
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #34 - 03/17/11 at 12:33:23
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In his latest update here at Chess Publishing, GM Gawain Jones analyses his recent games on the white side of the  Four Pawns Attack.
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #33 - 03/12/11 at 12:43:46
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Kam wrote on 03/11/11 at 22:56:01:
A key attraction to this system is that white is deprived of smoothly developing his bishops
to f4 and c4. Often white has to waste a move in initially developing a bishop to e3 or d3.



Kam, In the good lines for White in the 4PA, I am referring to classic variation, I do not see any variation where
White gains by playing Bc4 or Bf4 (although the f4 square is empty). Due to the pressure on the d4 square
White needs to put the bishop on e3. In some lines,
the bishop in e3 can be exchanged by the knight in b6
(after d4-d5).
In some other lines, considered now bad for Black (e.g., dxe5, Bf5 and Bb4 (no knight on c6 before playing c5)) the refutation by White is based on the
move Bd3!
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #32 - 03/11/11 at 22:56:01
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Reply to comment by Arcticmonkey,  Reply #30

1.e4 Nf6  2.e5 Nd5  3.d4 d6  4.c4 Nb6  5.f4 g6
6.Be3 Bg7  7.Nc3 Be6! 

One of my current projects is the investigating of the Sergeev Variation (or Taylors 5…. g6 line)
and it seems to be very good. So far, I cannot see anything wrong with the variation.

A key attraction to this system is that white is deprived of smoothly developing his bishops
to f4 and c4. Often white has to waste a move in initially developing a bishop to e3 or d3.
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #31 - 03/11/11 at 14:02:00
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STEFANOS wrote on 03/11/11 at 06:23:35:
I expect from the writer of the section more on the 4PA since he won two games with that in German Bundesliga and one it is against Short.

It was not in the Bundesliga

It would be nice to see his notes; however, it appears to me that both games are examples of the Alekhinists not knowing the theory
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #30 - 03/11/11 at 12:14:01
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Wait wait, am i missing something?
Isn't Taylor's 5...g6 at least ok for Black?
At least to me it seems more principled than trying to restrict d5 from white, as it immediately prepared ...Bg7, ...c5 and the like. I honestly dont know the objective merits and such, but seems easier to play.
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #29 - 03/11/11 at 06:23:35
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I expect from the writer of the section more on the 4PA since he won two games with that in German Bundesliga and one it is against Short.
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #28 - 03/01/11 at 15:47:14
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To let you know that in the most recent TWIC dowloads there are two 4PA games, both played by
G Jones (perhaps we would be able to see his analysis
on his next post).

Both games won by White. One against Baburin which played the line with 5...Bf5 and later Na6 (and no Pawn exchange). The other against Short which played 9...Bg4 in the normal line. I am a bit disapointed with this game. For some (a long) time I was expecting to see Short play again the Alekhine since he always plays interesting games. When I sqaw the 4PA, I remembered his game with 9...Qd7 against Kotronias where he played the old (and possibly bad) 11...f6. I was hoping for an improvement.
Unfortunately, I saw the boring (in my opinion) 9...Bg4. I guess this move must have something of interest since it is the second choice between players with more than 2500 Elo. But this does not prevent me from saying that the game was boring and, in my opinion, White had a plus over minus from the beginning to a strategically good win by Jones
  
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #27 - 06/16/10 at 13:54:14
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Luis (aka Ig) has done some splendid work collating his available information and home analysis on Black's plan of ...Qd7,...Rd8 and ...Bg4 against the Four Pawns Attack, an interesting option recently chosen by the Spanish GM Narciso.

With Luis's approval, I have edited his material, splitting it into two main sections, and added some references and a few lines of engine-assisted analysis (pgn file attached). Comments welcome, of course!

The file has also been uploaded to, and will remain available at, the "Alekhine Defense Working Group" (Google groups) which is always glad of new members, especially ones willing to contribute their ideas, games and analyses.
  
4PswithQd7Rd8Bg4.pgn ( 14 KB | Downloads )
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Re: Four Pawns Attack in the Alekhine
Reply #26 - 06/02/10 at 08:56:53
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Thanks Paddy. Anothe rinteresting contribution from you

Luis
  
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