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Pantu Ex Member	Re: Current status of QGD exchange variation Reply #5 - 04/27/11 at 21:42:27	Post Tools	Print Post
	Ametanoitos wrote on 04/27/11 at 20:23:16: I always considered the line with Nge2 not terribly dangerous because of Be6-Rc8-c5. I took a long hard look at this, wanting to play it as black, and decided that if white follows the recipe of playing every possible useful move before e4 then there was reasonable hope of an advantage e.g. 9 Nge2 Re8 10 0-0 Nf8 11 f3 Be6 12 Rae1 (or 12 Rad1) 12...Rc8 13 Kh1 a6 (useful in other lines at least) 14 h3 and then next free move is e4. If black plays ...c5 white just takes and should be slightly better. If white plays an earlier e4 then black should get counterplay. 9 Nf3 Re8 10 0-0 Nf8 11 f3 Be6 12 Ne5 also causes me great unease. Several places claim it's equal but I'm not so sure I would want to play black. Yermo's 12 Rfe1 looks good for an edge too. There is nothing devastating though.


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Ametanoitos God Member Offline The road to success is under construction Posts: 1429 Location: Patras Joined: 01/04/05	Re: Current status of QGD exchange variation Reply #4 - 04/27/11 at 20:23:16	Post Tools	Print Post
	I always considered the line with Nge2 not terribly dangerous because of Be6-Rc8-c5. As for Karpov's h3 plan i remember some commented game by Marin in Chessbase featuring and Andersson's game where Marin said that Black equalised convincingly. Check it. Also 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Be7! seems fine for Black.


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fling God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1591 Joined: 01/21/11 Gender:	Re: Current status of QGD exchange variation Reply #3 - 04/27/11 at 20:18:07	Post Tools	Print Post
	The other point is to be able to answer an early ...Bf5 by Black with Qf3. This allows White to destroy Black's pawn structure. Even though Short has played this with Black, it seems like it is a bit better for White.


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mrbenoni YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 13 Joined: 04/27/11	Re: Current status of QGD exchange variation Reply #2 - 04/27/11 at 18:42:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	The two variations are: a)1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Bg5 c6 6.e3 Be7 7.Bd3 O-O 8.Qc2 Nbd7 9.Nf3 Re8 10.h3 * In this variation h3 is a multi-purpose move preventing an eventual Ng4 and giving a retreat spot for the white bishop. The idea for white is to support Ne5 at the right time without allowing Ng4. h3 can also be useful if the white bishop ends on f4 because after Nh5 the bishop doesn't get exchanged as it can retreat to h2. I always felt that black has problems in equalizing against this line. b)1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Bg5 c6 6.e3 Be7 7.Bd3 O-O 8.Qc2 Nbd7 9.Nge2* P.S: 7.Qc2 is not so strong as it allows Black to easily play Bf5 as shown in your analysis. Stronger is e3 to play Bd3 and gain control of the b1-h7 diagonal thus preventing Bf5 once for all.


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trw God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1414 Joined: 05/06/08 Gender:	Re: Current status of QGD exchange variation Reply #1 - 04/27/11 at 17:55:03	Post Tools	Print Post
	Can we get the full moves to the lines in question? I normally prefer to keep the tension as white and not play Exchange but after reading some inspiring comments by Yermo on his exchange games I tried it. However, already I'm confounded as white at how easily black gets full equality after say something like: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Nc3 c6 6. Bg5 Be7 7. Qc2 (to prevent Bf5 otherwise 7. e3 Bf5 8. Bd3 Bxd3 9. Qxd3 0-0 10. 0-0 provides nothing but =) and then 7... g6! anyways saying Bf5 will come anyhow! (After say 8. e3 or 8. h3) So the only thing to do is 8. e4 which provides no advantage either. Seems pure and simple =! Granted I have very little experience with this structure... but given how easy = is from this line... it has left me with the taste of wanting no more.


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mrbenoni YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 13 Joined: 04/27/11	Current status of QGD exchange variation 04/27/11 at 17:38:29	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hi, there has been a lack of recents books about the QGD lately and I am wondering about the current status of the Exchange variation. My impression is that the exchange variation is played less today then it was 10 years ago. Also it seems to me more black players are willing to enter the Exchange also when white can play Nge2 and f3. However my feeling is that Black has always been struggling in the QGD exchange both in the Nf3 and even more in the Nge2 variations. I feel that Nf3 and 10 h3 (as played by Karpov and Yermo) has always been a slight plus for White while the Nge2 QGD exchange is always better for White. What is your opinion about these two lines? Thanks, Luca


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