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AlanG Full Member Offline Posts: 159 Joined: 10/16/08	Re: New line used by Stockfish 7 in Berlin Gambit Reply #6 - 01/31/16 at 22:11:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	Well it was also mentioned in the previous chapter where the coverage of 4. Bc4 Bc5 begins: "White usually transposes to the Italian Game with 5. c3" And the analysis is in chapter 49.


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HagenWatch1 Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 123 Joined: 04/08/15	Re: New line used by Stockfish 7 in Berlin Gambit Reply #5 - 01/31/16 at 21:29:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	AlanG wrote on 01/31/16 at 19:16:09: He does - in the transpositions section at the end of the chapter. "If White has adequate survival instincts he will avoid this chapter and transpose to the Italian Game with 5.c3 (Chapter 49)" It would have been helpful if Bologan had at least mentioned this tidbit in the chapter notes itself and shown us a line of analysis. As such seeing 5.c3 on the board was quite a sucker punch to the face because it left me wondering what line this transposed to. Makes me want to throw up my hands in disgust and just stick to the French Defence. By the way I had been playing this game in rapid against Stockfish 7 using Valentina Guinina's games as the opening book so imagine my surprise to see this line used!


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AlanG Full Member Offline Posts: 159 Joined: 10/16/08	Re: New line used by Stockfish 7 in Berlin Gambit Reply #4 - 01/31/16 at 19:16:09	Post Tools	Print Post
	He does - in the transpositions section at the end of the chapter. "If White has adequate survival instincts he will avoid this chapter and transpose to the Italian Game with 5.c3 (Chapter 49)"


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HagenWatch1 Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 123 Joined: 04/08/15	Re: New line used by Stockfish 7 in Berlin Gambit Reply #3 - 01/31/16 at 18:48:44	Post Tools	Print Post
	kylemeister wrote on 01/31/16 at 16:08:33: A normal book response is 5...Nf6, transposing to the Giuoco Piano. I don't think Bologan mentions this in the Berlin Gambit chapter on the Scotch move order.


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tony37 God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 619 Joined: 10/16/10	Re: New line used by Stockfish 7 in Berlin Gambit Reply #2 - 01/31/16 at 16:14:42	Post Tools	Print Post
	This line was first played (as far as is known to chess historians) in a correspondence game between the City of London (white) and the City of Edinburgh (black). The game began on April the 28th, 1824, and ended on February the 23th, 1825. Efforts to determine whether the City of London used a secret copy of Stockfish 7 have been inconclusive.


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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4989 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: New line used by Stockfish 7 in Berlin Gambit Reply #1 - 01/31/16 at 16:08:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	A normal book response is 5...Nf6, transposing to the Giuoco Piano.


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HagenWatch1 Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 123 Joined: 04/08/15	New line used by Stockfish 7 in Berlin Gambit 01/31/16 at 13:21:49	Post Tools	Print Post
	Theory goes 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Bc4 Bc5. Now here the normal continuation is 5. 0-0 as mentioned in Bologan's Black Weapons. But Stockfish 7 has come up with a new wrinkle here and throws this line out the window with 5. c3! immediately before castling. Has anyone seen this line and what's the best answer?


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