ChessPub Forum - Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski

Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #67 - 07/15/09 at 18:42:09	Post Tools	Print Post
	ghenghisclown wrote on 07/15/09 at 18:09:10: Antillian wrote on 07/15/09 at 17:59:02: Pavlovic devouted less than 130 pages at max to the Marshall and Antimarshall including the introduction in his recent "Fighting the Ruy Lopez". Coverage in this new book does not appear to be that much different in quantity. (Coverages starts on page 153 and goes to the end, minus indexes presumably of a 288 page book) I'm not sure what you're saying here. Is it that it's impossible to cover the Marshall well in 130 pages? No, I am not saying that. I was just making an observation that both authors use a similar number of pages. Pavlovic's book might, however be perceived to be offering more substantive coverage when in fact a large part of the book is used to complete the repertiore.

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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #66 - 07/15/09 at 18:38:19	Post Tools	Print Post
	Antillian wrote on 07/15/09 at 17:59:02: Markovich wrote on 07/15/09 at 17:43:41: Well I'll be very interested to get ahold of this book. The material on the Schliemann alone is worth the price, and it'll be interesting to see what he can say about the Marshall in so little space. Pavlovic devouted less than 130 pages at max to the Marshall and Antimarshall including the introduction in his recent "Fighting the Ruy Lopez". Coverage in this new book does not appear to be that much different in quantity. (Coverages starts on page 153 and goes to the end, minus indexes presumably of a 288 page book) Fair enough.

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TonyRo God Member Offline I'm gonna crack your skull! Posts: 1849 Location: Cleveland, OH Joined: 11/26/07 Gender:	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #65 - 07/15/09 at 18:21:25	Post Tools	Print Post
	I really want this one as well. Anyone know of a place in the states to get it at a normal price?


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ghenghisclown God Member Offline Pedicare Vestri Latin Posts: 1022 Location: HollyWeird Joined: 07/19/06 Gender:	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #64 - 07/15/09 at 18:09:10	Post Tools	Print Post
	Antillian wrote on 07/15/09 at 17:59:02: Pavlovic devouted less than 130 pages at max to the Marshall and Antimarshall including the introduction in his recent "Fighting the Ruy Lopez". Coverage in this new book does not appear to be that much different in quantity. (Coverages starts on page 153 and goes to the end, minus indexes presumably of a 288 page book) I'm not sure what you're saying here. Is it that it's impossible to cover the Marshall well in 130 pages?

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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #63 - 07/15/09 at 17:59:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	Markovich wrote on 07/15/09 at 17:43:41: Well I'll be very interested to get ahold of this book. The material on the Schliemann alone is worth the price, and it'll be interesting to see what he can say about the Marshall in so little space. Pavlovic devouted less than 130 pages at max to the Marshall and Antimarshall including the introduction in his recent "Fighting the Ruy Lopez". Coverage in this new book does not appear to be that much different in quantity. (Coverages starts on page 153 and goes to the end, minus indexes presumably of a 288 page book)

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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #62 - 07/15/09 at 17:43:41	Post Tools	Print Post
	Well I'll be very interested to get ahold of this book. The material on the Schliemann alone is worth the price, and it'll be interesting to see what he can say about the Marshall in so little space. I'm less interested in the Gajevski, but who knows, maybe I'll learn something. Too bad the online sample doesn't include the forward, which would've been quite illuminating. What is that typeface that Quality always uses? Book Antiqua? I don't like it very much. But that's a quibble.

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boki Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 181 Joined: 04/02/08	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #61 - 07/15/09 at 15:16:35	Post Tools	Print Post
	The book is published. I will get it propably only in august, so any opinions about the proposed variations?


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rossia Senior Member Offline Saw: "Game Over!" Posts: 335 Location: Irkutsk Joined: 09/17/07	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #60 - 06/22/09 at 19:42:57	Post Tools	Print Post
	Here is a PDF extract from the book: https://www.schachversand.de/DBBilder/leseprob/LOBRUATS.pdf


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micawber God Member Offline like many sneaks and skunks in history he's a poet Posts: 852 Location: Netherlands Joined: 09/07/05 Gender:	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #59 - 06/06/09 at 19:18:23	Post Tools	Print Post
	pavlovic "Fighting the Ruy Lopez" has probably been published. Everymann Chess has posted a pdf with the contents and an excerpt on it's site. The excerpt shows that the analysis is not very deep digging, but the explanations and examples seem OK. This book, containing a black repertoire based on the Marshall Attack is a direct competitor to "Attacking the Spanish". Of course this last book still remains of interest because of the Schliemann and Gajewski. But as more than one poster has observed, treating all three in a single volume is a rather daunting task.


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Stefan Buecker God Member Offline Posts: 1386 Location: Germany Joined: 02/11/09 Gender:	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #58 - 06/03/09 at 01:26:51	Post Tools	Print Post
	Roger Williamson wrote on 02/10/09 at 22:33:07: I too dabbled with the line in blitz, and it proved almost impossible to lose with the opening in the 5 minute pool on ICC, such was the unfamiliarity with a line assumed to be rubbish. I garnered alot of verbal abuse as a bonus. Alas, whenever I threatened the Marshall in serious games I was denied a chance to try it, and left wishing I'd played 7... d6 instead of 7... 0-0. In blitz I never once reached the critical position examined by Bucker in the double bishop sacrifice line: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. 0-0 Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 0-0 8. c3 d5 9. ed e4 10. dc6 exf3 11. Qxf3 Bg4 12. Qg3 Re8 13. f3 Bd6 14. Qf2 Rxe1+ 15. Qxe1 Bxf3 16. gxf3 Bxh2+ 17. KxB Qd3 18. Qe3 Qf5 19. d4 Re8 20. Kg2 RxQ 21. BxR which didn't look pleasant for Black either in the Bucker article or on the chessboard at home. My lines after 21...Qg6+ 22.Kf1 a5 were long, hard to memorise. Now I think that he could simply play 22...h5 and push the h-pawn. This is =, easy to play and offers even better practical chances than 22...a5.


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TN God Member Offline Posts: 3420 Joined: 11/07/08 Gender:	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #57 - 06/02/09 at 22:20:53	Post Tools	Print Post
	@Schakkhamster The answer to your question was just posted on Quality Chess's blog, which I quote here: Quote: But most importantly, his book Attacking the Spanish, is set to be out early in July. The editing is basically at an end and typesetting has begun. With the three weeks of turnover at the printer, we hope that the book will be out five weeks from now. We think it is really really good, but this will of course be for the critiques and readers to decide. Some more good news is that Brunello looks set to become Italy's no.2 player after Caruana in the near future, based on his latest results.

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Schaakhamster God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 650 Joined: 05/13/08	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #56 - 06/02/09 at 07:55:49	Post Tools	Print Post
	shouldn't this be surfacing around now? Looking forward to see the "first" book on the Gajewski. The hype has stopped but there still interesting games being played in this line.


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Sacapawn Full Member Offline International Master Posts: 119 Location: Stockholm Joined: 05/27/05 Gender:	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #55 - 02/21/09 at 14:49:23	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 f5 4.Nc3 fxe4 5.Nxe4 Nf6 6.Nxf6+ Qxf6 7.Qe2 Be7 8.Bxc6 bxc6! 9.Qxe5 now here's the shocker, rather than 9...c5, I actually think that 9...Qf7!? could be black's most challenging response. The great oracle, Khalifman, in his by now fabled OFWATA series, does not think highly of 9...Qf7 and suggests that White simply grab another pawn with 10.Qxc7(!) however things are not so clear after 10...0-0 11.d3 Bb4+!? [Unmentioned in OFWATA] the key idea being to meet the obvious 12.c3 with 12...Qg6! after which its game on. Maybe 11.0-0 Qg6 12.Ne1 instead. I have not found any convincing continuation for black after this.


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Ender Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 408 Joined: 05/22/06	Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gajewski Reply #54 - 02/18/09 at 22:57:07	Post Tools	Print Post
	Sorry. Qc4 Bd7 is ok for black.

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Re: Attacking Spanish: Marshall, Schliemann & Gaje
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Odd Gunnar Malin wrote on 02/18/09 at 00:03:51:

After 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 f5 4.Nc3 fxe4 5.Nxe4 Nf6 6.Nxf6+ Qxf6 7.Qe2 Be7 8.Bxc6 bxc6 the Sweedish GM Emanuel Berg tried 9.d4 in Gibraltar this month. Something went wrong with his preparation and he had to fight for a draw. When looking at the game that went 9...Qg6 10.O-O d6 11.dxe5 the move 11.Qc4 looked like a good alternative.

I analyzed this a bit but are new to this opening so there is probably something wrong in my analysis but for me it looks like Black have problem getting any play.
The best line I found (with computer help, 11.Qc4 haven't been played as far as I know) was 11...d5 12.Qc3 e4 13.Ne5 Qe6 14.Qxc6 Qxc6 15.Nxc6 and White is a healthy pawn up. I tried many other lines for Black but all seems to be even worse to me, then I have never played the Black side of the Schliemann and have no idea how he expect to counterattack.

Interesting stuff, I will take a look at this and get back to you.

To Ender, reQx4 Bd7: Kindly take the time to read through your post carefully and edit as needed before hitting the post button, in that way you will greatly reduce the likelihood of uploading gibberish.

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