proustiskeen wrote on 02/15/21 at 02:53:27:
The networks are completely different, and they have released the source and (soon, i think) the actual network on github. There's no violation of GPL and no ethical problem, in my view.
"Selling Stockfish derivatives is possible with the GPLv3 license we grant, but not without requirements. In particular, the license states that if one redistributes a program derived from our work, the corresponding modifications of our sources and all information needed to build that program must be made available. Only after explicitly informing Albert Silver (the author of the net in Fat Fritz 2) of a license violation have matching C++ sources, but not the net weights, been made available. "
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https://blog.stockfishchess.org/post/643239805544792064/statement-on-fat-fritz-2 Everything about FF2 is ethically garbage.
The jury is out whether it is legal at all, they are -as of now- effectively breaking the GPL licence, at the very least in spirit.
"soon, I think" is obviously too late.
If someone is telling you 'You can sell this, but only if you tell everyone you got it from me', you can't start selling it and wait a month (or however long) with telling people. That was the precondition.
If the net has to be released to the public before you start selling (that is how I understand it), then every cent that they made from Fat Fritz up until actually releasing the net is grounds for calling a lawyer.
Not that this type of behavior by ChessBase should surprise anyone -
June last year, they published a long sales pitch for the entire Houdini series
https://en.chessbase.com/post/10-years-houdini ; this is 2 months after
https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/29181/is-houdini-6-a-stockfish-clone this thread clarified that the entire engine is stolen (on talkchess, the discussion had been running for a while prior).
It is still for sale at full price in their shop
https://shop.chessbase.com/en/products/houdini_6_pro_multiprocessor_version .
Everything about ChessBase is a joke. A company stuck in 1995, passed left and right by "upstarts", that now tries to save itself from the onslaught of modern chess tools by selling stolen content.