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Reply #55 - 05/10/09 at 03:27:50
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Amen!

And as a K.I.D player let me just say I'm hoping this book sells well and the 4 Pawns Attack becomes popular again.  Wink   

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Reply #54 - 05/10/09 at 00:41:34
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I hope don't offend, but the title of this work is becoming a wearisome subject.  I suggest that if it's to be discussed any further, it be done in a "General Chess" thread.  Let's talk about chess here.
  

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Reply #53 - 05/09/09 at 19:01:34
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I don't think the title was in any way supposed to be a joke or a pun. There are clearly seen periods in between the KID, and there's no "the" to be seen in the title, making the implication harder to take seriously as well. If someone wrote a book called Kill the Nimzo, there would be no problem! I simply think it was written this way because Kill the King's Indian Defense takes up too much space!  Grin
  
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Re: Kill the KID
Reply #52 - 05/09/09 at 06:02:11
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ghenghisclown wrote on 05/05/09 at 10:24:02:
The title was just meant to sell copies.


So maybe it would be a good idea to write a book, titled, e.g.
Mein Kampf in the King's Indian
and to explain in the very beginning that it is not about Hitler in fact, so dear readers should not worry.
Besides, non-chessplaying Nazi may well buy such a book by mistake, or just because the title makes them curious.
  
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Re: Kill the KID
Reply #51 - 05/09/09 at 03:50:57
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TopNotch wrote on 05/08/09 at 23:38:38:
TonyRo wrote on 05/08/09 at 21:23:07:
I just received a copy of Kill the KID, and just from a quick cursory glance, it looks amazing! Half the book covers the critical variations in the Benoni structure, and the other half covers the rest. It seems as though even if Black has some way to make it through the maze of 9...Re8 10. e6!? fxe6 11. d6, it's extraordinarily dangerous. I'm excited!  Grin


What about the 9...Bg4 Lines, those seem the most stable for Black.

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Against 9...Bg4, he recommends 10. 0-0 Nbd7 11. h3!?, mostly following up with an attack on the kingside with g4, h4, g5, h5, etc...No Re1, no a4 normally. Skull cracking good fun!  Grin
  
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Re: Kill the KID
Reply #50 - 05/09/09 at 00:24:47
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Bibs wrote on 05/08/09 at 23:51:04:
Markovich wrote on 05/08/09 at 23:44:43:
TonyRo wrote on 05/08/09 at 21:23:07:
I just received a copy of Kill the KID, and just from a quick cursory glance, it looks amazing! Half the book covers the critical variations in the Benoni structure, and the other half covers the rest. It seems as though even if Black has some way to make it through the maze of 9...Re8 10. e6!? fxe6 11. d6, it's extraordinarily dangerous. I'm excited!  Grin


Nice, I have it on order, along with Konikowski's book.  But really I think that the 4PA is just plain dangerous whether in 10.e6 or 10.Bg5 or 10.0-0.  Not saying it wins, but it's plenty dangerous.


Agree with that certainly.

Though look at the 4P game
Palliser-McShane from last weekend at 4NCL.
White downed in 20. Good work from the black knights. This deserves a mention in next month's effort from Golubev-san.

Good to see Luke back.


Yeah, although I think that 11.dxc6 was a clunker.

Palliser-McShane quoted from 4ncl, Pein's notations (evidently):

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f4 0-0 6.Nf3 Na6 7.Bd3 e5! 8.fxe5 dxe5 9.d5 (9.Nxe5 Qxd4; 9.dxe5 Nc5 10.Bc2 Qxd1+ 11.Nxd1 Ng4=) 9...Ne8 10.0-0 c5 11.dxc6 bxc6 12.Be3 Nec7 13.a3 Ne6 14.b4 Nd4 15.Ne2 Nxf3+ 16.Rxf3 Nc7 17.h3 (17.Qd2!?) 17...Ne6 18.Ra2?! (18.Qc2) 18...f5! 19.Bc2 (19.exf5 e4!) 19...Qxd1+ 20.Bxd1 f4! 0-1
  

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Reply #49 - 05/08/09 at 23:51:04
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Markovich wrote on 05/08/09 at 23:44:43:
TonyRo wrote on 05/08/09 at 21:23:07:
I just received a copy of Kill the KID, and just from a quick cursory glance, it looks amazing! Half the book covers the critical variations in the Benoni structure, and the other half covers the rest. It seems as though even if Black has some way to make it through the maze of 9...Re8 10. e6!? fxe6 11. d6, it's extraordinarily dangerous. I'm excited!  Grin


Nice, I have it on order, along with Konikowski's book.  But really I think that the 4PA is just plain dangerous whether in 10.e6 or 10.Bg5 or 10.0-0.  Not saying it wins, but it's plenty dangerous.


Agree with that certainly.

Though look at the 4P game
Palliser-McShane from last weekend at 4NCL.
White downed in 20. Good work from the black knights. This deserves a mention in next month's effort from Golubev-san.

Good to see Luke back.
  
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Reply #48 - 05/08/09 at 23:44:43
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TonyRo wrote on 05/08/09 at 21:23:07:
I just received a copy of Kill the KID, and just from a quick cursory glance, it looks amazing! Half the book covers the critical variations in the Benoni structure, and the other half covers the rest. It seems as though even if Black has some way to make it through the maze of 9...Re8 10. e6!? fxe6 11. d6, it's extraordinarily dangerous. I'm excited!  Grin


Nice, I have it on order, along with Konikowski's book.  But really I think that the 4PA is just plain dangerous whether in 10.e6 or 10.Bg5 or 10.0-0.  Not saying it wins, but it's plenty dangerous.
  

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Reply #47 - 05/08/09 at 23:38:38
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TonyRo wrote on 05/08/09 at 21:23:07:
I just received a copy of Kill the KID, and just from a quick cursory glance, it looks amazing! Half the book covers the critical variations in the Benoni structure, and the other half covers the rest. It seems as though even if Black has some way to make it through the maze of 9...Re8 10. e6!? fxe6 11. d6, it's extraordinarily dangerous. I'm excited!  Grin


What about the 9...Bg4 Lines, those seem the most stable for Black.

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Reply #46 - 05/08/09 at 23:36:29
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TonyRo wrote on 05/05/09 at 19:54:25:
I am running the 64 Bit version of Rybka 3 on my laptop which has these specs: 

Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 Ghz
4 GB RAM
64-Bits Windows Vista Business

Not exactly a supercomputer, but no slouch either. The laptop is less than a year old Grin


I can't get my 64 Bit version of Rybka 3 to, only the 32 Bit version Sad

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Reply #45 - 05/08/09 at 21:23:07
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I just received a copy of Kill the KID, and just from a quick cursory glance, it looks amazing! Half the book covers the critical variations in the Benoni structure, and the other half covers the rest. It seems as though even if Black has some way to make it through the maze of 9...Re8 10. e6!? fxe6 11. d6, it's extraordinarily dangerous. I'm excited!  Grin
  
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Reply #44 - 05/05/09 at 21:13:11
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Well it seems to me that this Maroczy structure with the White pawn on f4 is a good deal less stable than that with f3.  So without taking up the burden of saying what Black should do exactly, I think that there should be some opportunities for Black to make trouble here.   
  

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Re: Kill the KID
Reply #43 - 05/05/09 at 20:26:57
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kylemeister wrote on 05/05/09 at 19:56:39:
I wonder what Rybka "intends" after 9...Qb6 10. Nc2, which as far as I know has long been considered slightly better for White.

I'm reminded that, according to Drazen Marovic, Leonid Stein was of the firm opinion that 8...Na6 is more promising than 8...Nc6 (a view with which Nunn seemed to agree about a decade ago).


Yes but Timothy Taylor made Marovic look like an idiot in his book on Beating The Kid, indeed he convincingly  blew quite a big hole in the often quoted Krzisnik - Marovic 1963, which theory holds as equal for Black but in reality he is close to dead lost.

Regarding 9...Qb6 I agree that theory holds that White is much better after 10.Nc2, but considering that Rybka is now the World's strongest player could signal that that assesment needs revising. As we speak I have Rybka working on it. While on the subject of Rybka, When GM Jan Gustafson was asked in New In Chess 2009/2 who his favorite player of all time was, his depressing answer was quote "Rybka 3. Sad but true".

Chess is currently experiencing a renaissance whereby none of the old theory in sharp openings can be trusted and everything has to be re-evaluated through modern technological eyes. Its as if chess is reborn.

Just to clarify, my problem is not finding equality for black in this line, but rather trying to avoid a sterile position. In general players that opt for this line as White are usually the weaker player trying to make a draw against a stronger opponent, no disrespect to Timothy Taylor who did show that if Black goes crazy he would be punished.

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Re: Kill the KID
Reply #42 - 05/05/09 at 19:56:39
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I wonder what Rybka "intends" after 9...Qb6 10. Nc2, which as far as I know has long been considered slightly better for White.

I'm reminded that, according to Drazen Marovic, Leonid Stein was of the firm opinion that 8...Na6 is more promising than 8...Nc6 (a view with which Nunn seemed to agree about a decade ago).
  
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Reply #41 - 05/05/09 at 19:54:25
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I am running the 64 Bit version of Rybka 3 on my laptop which has these specs: 

Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.50 Ghz
4 GB RAM
64-Bits Windows Vista Business

Not exactly a supercomputer, but no slouch either. The laptop is less than a year old Grin
  
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